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Old 02-22-2013, 03:28 PM   #1
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Barkley is the single most undervalued QB in this draft. Such nonsense being thrown around about him being worth only a second-round grade.

Starts, system experience, intangibles, physical skill set...it's all there. Not going to be surprised at all if he's the Chiefs QB this fall.
I know it's illogical, I really know that. But I just am sick at having another #7 USC quarterback named Matt.

I KNOW IT'S ILLOGICAL.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:40 PM   #2
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I know it's illogical, I really know that. But I just am sick at having another #7 USC quarterback named Matt.

I KNOW IT'S ILLOGICAL.
I know what you're saying, and this is exactly why he's not a popular prospect with Chiefs fans. It doesn't make sense, but then again it does in some ways.
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:07 PM   #3
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I know it's illogical, I really know that. But I just am sick at having another #7 USC quarterback named Matt.

I KNOW IT'S ILLOGICAL.
We had a #7 USC TE named Matt, but never a QB.
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:19 PM   #4
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We had a #7 USC TE named Matt, but never a QB.
Excellent point. And Matt Leinert was #7 in the pros, but not at USC.

That's it! That's the secret! They have to be #7 AT USC while actually playing QB!

Draft away, good sirs!
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:30 PM   #5
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Barkley is the single most undervalued QB in this draft. Such nonsense being thrown around about him being worth only a second-round grade.

Starts, system experience, intangibles, physical skill set...it's all there. Not going to be surprised at all if he's the Chiefs QB this fall.
I thought he was projected to go top 5 or 10 last year if he would have come out? Why did he fall?
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:31 PM   #6
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I thought he was projected to go top 5 or 10 last year if he would have come out? Why did he fall?
did you not watch any college football the last 6 months?
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:35 PM   #7
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I thought he was projected to go top 5 or 10 last year if he would have come out? Why did he fall?
He was a potential #1.

USC was overrated to begin the season, and became a hot mess.

I blame that ****tard Kiffin.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:43 PM   #8
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tangibles, physical skill set...it's all there. Not going to be surprised at all if he's the Chiefs QB this fall.
Uh I don't know about ALL the physical skill sets. His arm is only average IMO but I can admit it's not everything. Although a huge plus.

Other then that, yeah he has a lot of what you're looking for.
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:10 PM   #9
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Barkley is the single most undervalued QB in this draft. Such nonsense being thrown around about him being worth only a second-round grade.

Starts, system experience, intangibles, physical skill set...it's all there. Not going to be surprised at all if he's the Chiefs QB this fall.
Me neither.

It's just amazing to me that this time last year, he was being talked about as a top 10 pick in a draft that was much more lush than this one.

His arm strength was plenty fine then and that didn't regress this year.

I like him a great deal and would love for him to be the QB here.
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If anyone this side of the CFL drafts James Vendenberg they should have their chromosome pairs counted and accredited physician.
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Another thing to think about, ie the trade back into the first scenario. I'd say teams have a pretty good idea that we have a shithole crater at Qb and are going to be looking for one in the draft.


Passing on one at 1 and hoping to trade back into the first if a run on QB's happen is a recipe for getting ass raped on a trade back up. Teams will know we are desperate to get back up to that spot to get our guy, could end up costing more than we thought.

With this draft having alot of depth at spots we need, could backfire.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:43 PM   #12
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Another thing to think about, ie the trade back into the first scenario. I'd say teams have a pretty good idea that we have a shithole crater at Qb and are going to be looking for one in the draft.


Passing on one at 1 and hoping to trade back into the first if a run on QB's happen is a recipe for getting ass raped on a trade back up. Teams will know we are desperate to get back up to that spot to get our guy, could end up costing more than we thought.

With this draft having alot of depth at spots we need, could backfire.
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Its a risk I would be willing to take if Clowney was sitting there at 1. Without blinking actually.
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Another thing to think about, ie the trade back into the first scenario. I'd say teams have a pretty good idea that we have a shithole crater at Qb and are going to be looking for one in the draft.


Passing on one at 1 and hoping to trade back into the first if a run on QB's happen is a recipe for getting ass raped on a trade back up. Teams will know we are desperate to get back up to that spot to get our guy, could end up costing more than we thought.

With this draft having alot of depth at spots we need, could backfire.
No question.

It could go really poorly.

Like I said, I don't think I'd have the juevos to try it, but it's an intriguing thought. What if you could get the Eagles to send Foles and Maclin as the trade down? No picks, just Foles and Maclin. You get your WR for the deep game, you get your 'fallback' QB in Foles and you don't have to worry quite as badly about getting raped in a tradeup for Manuel; either he falls to you or he doesn't. Worst case scenario is you have a different strong-armed passer in Foles to roll with. Best case is you end up with two aggressive downfield passers, a WR that helps you make that offense go and 2 of the most impressive physical specimens in the league on the same D-Line.
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No question.

It could go really poorly.

Like I said, I don't think I'd have the juevos to try it, but it's an intriguing thought. What if you could get the Eagles to send Foles and Maclin as the trade down? No picks, just Foles and Maclin. You get your WR for the deep game, you get your 'fallback' QB in Foles and you don't have to worry quite as badly about getting raped in a tradeup for Manuel; either he falls to you or he doesn't. Worst case scenario is you have a different strong-armed passer in Foles to roll with. Best case is you end up with two aggressive downfield passers, a WR that helps you make that offense go and 2 of the most impressive physical specimens in the league on the same D-Line.
Thats a different situation all together then. I don't think they would ever do that, but yeah, I'd probably take my chances there.

I could potentially come out of the first 2 picks with Floyd, Foles, Maclin and Manuel? Yeah, I'd pull that trigger.


Although, I think if they make the move for Foles, they probably wouldn't look at another QB that early.
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