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Old 11-17-2009, 04:22 PM  
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Is Haley really "too angry"?

I don't see Haley as being too angry -- not any angrier than most of us are throughout games at some of the dumbass things this awful team does. He clearly has his pet peeves (hello delay of game), but for the most part he seems to be genuinely pissed at dumb mistakes and at players that simply can't get it done.

Another thing is that his anger is generally very fairly spread out -- he'll bitch out a scrub like Savage and franchise players like Cassel and Bowe within minutes of each other.

I keep reading everywhere, from the Chiefs blogosphere to Peter King, that this is an emotion that Haley will have to curb. I've heard it here from people on this team that Haley has to cool it or he risks losing the team.

Really? Intolerance of dumbass mistakes risks losing the team?

I'm sorry, but I sat through the seemingly endless patience of Dick Vermeil and the zen-like ignorance of Herm Edwards during games. Haley's temperament, considering how sick I'm becoming of how awful this team is, seems pitch perfect.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:03 PM   #46
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Kansas City... the name itself evokes a 1000 rugged images, a true Gateway to the wild, Wild West... Wyatt Earp walked those streets dispensing frontier justice... a city built on the backs on some of the most rugged, rawboned roving cowboys, gamblers, shady guns for hire and hardy settlers to have ever walked on Gods green Earth...

Yet what is hairlipping the descendants (literal/nearby/in spirit), of this gritty, unfazed by hardship and coarse manner American stock?...yup, you guessed it pard... a few curse words,from a man that doesnt cotton to halfassed effort, a fighting spirit that wants to WIN so badly that he just cant hide it...

For those that think this is such a terrible thing, reach down, grab your balls and workboots, take a deep breath and get a grip.
Wyatt Earp had little to do with KC but a quality rant none the less~
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:16 PM   #47
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Wyatt Earp had little to do with KC but a quality rant none the less~
You're right of course, he wasnt there long & didnt make his name there... but it fit into my rant perfectly IMO .
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:21 PM   #48
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The old west.
Not much left anymore, just a few dusty mementos and legends; LOTS of legends.

Though not all of 'em square with the facts.

That's why Time/Life is proud to present "The Old West Collection".
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:27 PM   #49
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I had a feeling you would.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:27 PM   #50
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Dane, c'mon. Look it up. Haley has been coaching in the NFL at least as long if not longer than Payton. They were both offensive coordinators of losing super bowl teams, they were both "passing game coordinators" under Parcells in Dallas. When Payton got hired by the Saints he had less years of NFL coaching experience (1997-2005) than Haley had when hired here (1997-2008). Payton also was demoted from his OC role in NY due to ineffectiveness.

Haley has been in the NFL for 14 years. That's more than Harbaugh (98-08) or Payton or Tomlin (01-09). So how did they spend more time coaching in the NFL than Haley when they didn't?

I 100% agree that he should not have taken on and should not in the future be doing all three jobs, I think that is just asking for disaster and it certainly has been a part of 2-7. But I don't think it has anything to do with lack of experience...
The difference being that outside of Fitzgerald (which is questionable), who had Haley "coached up"? Furthermore, Payton spent a great deal of his career as an OC and QB coach.

Haley was an OC for one year. The rest of the time he spent coaching was as a WR coach.

The bottom line in my opinion is that Payton was far more prepared than Haley to become a head coach and shouldn't be compared to him when talking about coaches with similar experience before landing a head coaching gig.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:34 PM   #51
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:41 PM   #52
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:48 PM   #53
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If you're getting paid millions to play a freakin' game and screw up or have a brainfart that costs/may cost your team, then I think it's only fair for you to get verbally berated in response. Just like a drill sargeant; break 'em down and build 'em back up.

Suck it up, gentlemen.
It has nothing to do with people growing a pair of balls.

It's about players that play tentative because they don't want to make a mistake and get chewed out. It's about coaches who become afraid to oppose him because he'll either chew you out or fire you.

There has to be a happy balance. In his defense, I like that he's spent a lot of time in press conferences praising his players for practicing hard. And that he admits to mistakes. That makes me at least hopeful that he's willing to throw a bone every once in a while.
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Old 11-18-2009, 12:57 AM   #54
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No. He got mad at Bowe...but five minutes later he was calmly talking to him on the bench.
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:14 AM   #55
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No. He got mad at Bowe...but five minutes later he was calmly talking to him on the bench.
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It's no more bizarre than pimp tukel.
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Look at who he slaps around - D.Bowe,Our backup qb.
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