Chiefs Stop blaming the play calling. - Page 5

acesn8s · 12-12-2010, 11:36 PM

Croyle failed today because he sucks ass. Everything was called as normal except an end around. And its not like that play is called every game anyways. Croyle was in the shotgun, under center, play action, threw deep, threw short, screens, and bootlegs. The play calling was not the problem of our offense; decision making was the problem. Croyle checks down too much and tries to throw a bullet on short pass plays. His accuracy is horrible. And he is indecisive when pressured.

Here is a breakdown of his performance.

After 4 straight runs gaining 13 yards and a 1st down, Croyle throws on 3rd and 10 to Copper for a WR screen losing 1 yard. Chiefs punt.

After a 1 yard loss by Jones, Croyle checks down to Charles for a gain of 4 yards on 2nd and 11 while a wide open McCluster breaks to the sideline with room to run. On 3rd and 7 Croyle over throws Copper. Chiefs punt.

On 1st and 10, Croyle is sacked for a 12 yard loss after a horrible attempt of a play action fake. After a run by Charles, Croyle checks down with a quick throw to Moeaki for 8 yards on 3rd and 18. Chiefs punt.

After Charles gains a 1st down and 16 yards, Croyle passes on a bootleg on 2nd and 4 to Moeaki for 5 yards. After a 2 yard run by Charles, Croyle throws a deep incomplete pass out of bounds toward Bowe. From the shotgun position on 3rd and 8 Croyle checks down to Bowe on an underneath route for 3 yards. Chiefs Punt.

From the shotgun position on 1st and 10, Croyle throws an incomplete pass toward Bow that was high and away from Bowe. From the shotgun position on 2nd and 10, Croyle throws over the middle to Copper for a 16 yard gain. From the shotgun position on 1st and 10, Croyle steps up in the pocket and checks down to Charles for 5 yards. From the shotgun position on 2nd and 5, Croyle throws a high pass toward Bowe deep that falls incomplete. From the shotgun position on 3rd and 5, Croyle holds the ball for 4 seconds before running back toward 2 of the 3 pass rushers and is sacked for a 11 yard loss. Halftime.

After two rushes by Charles and a gain of 3 yards, Croyle targets Bowe again and again throws an incomplete pass on 3rd and 7. He never takes his eyes off Bowe and throws a bullet that a diving Bowe cannot handle. Chiefs punt.

After two rushes by Charles and a gain of 4 yards, Croyle targets Bowe again and again throws an incomplete pass on 3rd and 16. Croyle play fakes to an invisible RB, bootlegs and throws to a covered Bowe on the sideline. Chiefs punt.

On 1st and 10, Croyle looks right, cocks to throw but never does and is sacked for a 6 yard loss. On 2nd and 16, Croyle under throws Bowe deep and the ball is deflected by the defender for an incomplete pass. On 3rd and 16 from the shotgun position, Croyle throws a screen pass toward Charles into the hands of a defensive lineman for an incomplete pass. Chiefs punt.

On 1st and 15 from the shotgun position, Croyle's 18 yard pass is well defended and falls incomplete. Tucker never gets his hands on the ball. On 2nd and 15 from the shotgun position, Croyle's 13 yard pass is knocked down by the defender and falls incomplete. Tucker never touches the ball. On 3rd and 15 from the shotgun position, Croyle steps up in the pocket, pump fakes and is sacked; never releasing the ball even though McCluster is apparently open near the first down marker. Chiefs punt.

Palko enters the game and goes 2 of 3 for 8 yards. Croyle's day is done going 7 of 17 for 40 yards.

**Rausch** · 12-13-2010, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

not me

the only damn thing I took from this debacle was the fact I'll never, ever, ever, ever again take Cassel for granted

Don't ever get married...

Hootie · 12-13-2010, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

So based on one game he was going to land starting QB pay?

You the ****ing guy that inked Frank Reich's contract?...

absolutely

he was a fairly high draft pick with a ton of talent

this was basically a playoff clinching game for us...he had the chance to be in the spotlight and earn his pay and set up his family for generations

if he had a monster game, or even an average game, or any sort of game where he flashed some of that "potential"...

there would have been a number of teams that would have taken a chance on him

or did you already forget about San Diego, Seattle and Charlie Whitehurst?

you did, didn't you?

**Rausch** · 12-13-2010, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

absolutely

he was a fairly high draft pick with a ton of talent

Third ****ing round...

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

this was basically a playoff clinching game for us...he had the chance to be in the spotlight and earn his pay and set up his family for generations

if he had a monster game, or even an average game, or any sort of game where he flashed some of that "potential"...

there would have been a number of teams that would have taken a chance on him

You do realize he had A WHOLE ****ING SEASON to do the same thing before, right?

No GM worth a **** is going to make his mind up based on 17 passes in one game...

Hootie · 12-13-2010, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Third ****ing round...

You do realize he had A WHOLE ****ING SEASON to do the same thing before, right?

No GM worth a **** is going to make his mind up based on 17 passes in one game...

what are you arguing?

If Croyle came out and had a great game he would have gotten a great contract from a team looking for a QB...period.

He could have gotten a top tier backup QB contract for a team looking for a starter...like $5+M a year

this was his chance and he blew it

I mean...he could land a backup gig next year...we may resign him for peanuts...or he could be out of the NFL...who knows...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-13-2010, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The playcalling had this team at 8-4 with a better QB under center. Suddenly, it's all the playcalling?

Same bullshit excuse that the fans of every losing team in the NFL fall back on.

No, this is the same playcalling that saw Cassel completely shit the bed to the extent that after the first two games of the year, people wanted Croyle.

68 Yards in the first game against a SD team with little pass rush.

176 yards, two picks, and a 46.2 QB rating against a Cleveland team that was playing atrociously.

It's not a coincidence that your QB often dies when you play RRPP. #1, they only throw in predictable situations, which means that #2, the pass rushers can tee off against them.

**Rausch** · 12-13-2010, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

what are you arguing?

If Croyle came out and had a great game he would have gotten a great contract from a team looking for a QB...period.

He could have gotten a top tier backup QB contract for a team looking for a starter...like $5+M a year

this was his chance and he blew it

I mean...he could land a backup gig next year...we may resign him for peanuts...or he could be out of the NFL...who knows...

He threw 17 passes and our defense puked up 2,000 pts.

This is not the performance his offseason contract will be based on I promise you...

Hootie · 12-13-2010, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

He threw 17 passes and our defense puked up 2,000 pts.

This is not the performance his offseason contract will be based on I promise you...

this performance cost him millions of dollars...

if you want to pretend that isn't true than go ahead

but it is true

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-13-2010, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

this performance cost him millions of dollars...

if you want to pretend that isn't true than go ahead

but it is true

No it didn't.

Charlie Whitehurst never even attempted an NFL pass before this season.

The closest comp was Matt Schaub, who had around 80 NFL passes before the Texans trade. Croyle has far more NFL experience under his belt than Schaub did.

**Rausch** · 12-13-2010, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

this performance cost him millions of dollars...

if you want to pretend that isn't true than go ahead

but it is true

I don't care how much the ****ing guy makes.

Do. Not. Care.

The only thing I care about is the Chiefs record and how I can get Mrs. Croyle into a bar so I can slip her some Seabass Sauce...

Hootie · 12-13-2010, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No it didn't.

Charlie Whitehurst never even attempted an NFL pass before this season.

The closest comp was Matt Schaub, who had around 80 NFL passes before the Texans trade. Croyle has far more NFL experience under his belt than Schaub did.

haha

the dude is going to be an UFA

after this shitfest

he is going to garner almost zero interest...his best chance is resigning as our backup now

if he lit it up and won us this game and played an amazing game...

he would have made millions of dollars more than he's going to make now

that is fact

if you want to pretend otherwise, go for it...it's not like you're ever right anyways

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-13-2010, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

haha

the dude is going to be an UFA

after this shitfest

he is going to garner almost zero interest...his best chance is resigning as our backup now

if he lit it up and won us this game and played an amazing game...

he would have made millions of dollars more than he's going to make now

that is fact

if you want to pretend otherwise, go for it...it's not like you're ever right anyways

This is why no one takes you seriously. When presented with empirical evidence, you just disappear into mythical Hootie-land where Tony Romo is a Hall of Famer and the Texans are the third best team in the AFC.

Hootie · 12-13-2010, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is why no one takes you seriously. When presented with empirical evidence, you just disappear into mythical Hootie-land where Tony Romo is a Hall of Famer and the Texans are the third best team in the AFC.

before I say anything...please show me a post where I said the Texans were the 3rd best team in the AFC...go on

next

you're telling me that, had Croyle had a monster game and showed some heart and led us to an inspirational victory...you're telling me he wouldn't have garnered some serious interest on the free agency market?

really?

really?

really?

really?

hahahaha

**Rausch** · 12-13-2010, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is why no one takes you seriously. When presented with empirical evidence, you just disappear into mythical Hootie-land where Tony Romo is a Hall of Famer and the Texans are the third best team in the AFC.

If Croyle throws for 300 yards and 4 TD's who the **** in this league is offering him a $20 million contract?

A guy that's always injured who's arm is always set on kill?

Really?

Just Passin' By · 12-13-2010, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

before I say anything...please show me a post where I said the Texans were the 3rd best team in the AFC...go on

next

you're telling me that, had Croyle had a monster game and showed some heart and led us to an inspirational victory...you're telling me he wouldn't have garnered some serious interest on the free agency market?

really?

really?

really?

really?

hahahaha

There's a big difference between "some interest" and $20 million, though.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-13-2010, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

before I say anything...please show me a post where I said the Texans were the 3rd best team in the AFC...go on

next

you're telling me that, had Croyle had a monster game and showed some heart and led us to an inspirational victory...you're telling me he wouldn't have garnered some serious interest on the free agency market?

really?

really?

really?

really?

hahahaha

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...9&postcount=11

Granted, you also projected the current 8 win Ravens and 9 win Jets to finish no better than .500, so you're always right on that as well.

12-12-2010, 11:36 PM
acesn8s MVP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Here Casino cash: $10007119	Stop blaming the play calling. Croyle failed today because he sucks ass. Everything was called as normal except an end around. And its not like that play is called every game anyways. Croyle was in the shotgun, under center, play action, threw deep, threw short, screens, and bootlegs. The play calling was not the problem of our offense; decision making was the problem. Croyle checks down too much and tries to throw a bullet on short pass plays. His accuracy is horrible. And he is indecisive when pressured. Here is a breakdown of his performance. After 4 straight runs gaining 13 yards and a 1st down, Croyle throws on 3rd and 10 to Copper for a WR screen losing 1 yard. Chiefs punt. After a 1 yard loss by Jones, Croyle checks down to Charles for a gain of 4 yards on 2nd and 11 while a wide open McCluster breaks to the sideline with room to run. On 3rd and 7 Croyle over throws Copper. Chiefs punt. On 1st and 10, Croyle is sacked for a 12 yard loss after a horrible attempt of a play action fake. After a run by Charles, Croyle checks down with a quick throw to Moeaki for 8 yards on 3rd and 18. Chiefs punt. After Charles gains a 1st down and 16 yards, Croyle passes on a bootleg on 2nd and 4 to Moeaki for 5 yards. After a 2 yard run by Charles, Croyle throws a deep incomplete pass out of bounds toward Bowe. From the shotgun position on 3rd and 8 Croyle checks down to Bowe on an underneath route for 3 yards. Chiefs Punt. From the shotgun position on 1st and 10, Croyle throws an incomplete pass toward Bow that was high and away from Bowe. From the shotgun position on 2nd and 10, Croyle throws over the middle to Copper for a 16 yard gain. From the shotgun position on 1st and 10, Croyle steps up in the pocket and checks down to Charles for 5 yards. From the shotgun position on 2nd and 5, Croyle throws a high pass toward Bowe deep that falls incomplete. From the shotgun position on 3rd and 5, Croyle holds the ball for 4 seconds before running back toward 2 of the 3 pass rushers and is sacked for a 11 yard loss. Halftime. After two rushes by Charles and a gain of 3 yards, Croyle targets Bowe again and again throws an incomplete pass on 3rd and 7. He never takes his eyes off Bowe and throws a bullet that a diving Bowe cannot handle. Chiefs punt. After two rushes by Charles and a gain of 4 yards, Croyle targets Bowe again and again throws an incomplete pass on 3rd and 16. Croyle play fakes to an invisible RB, bootlegs and throws to a covered Bowe on the sideline. Chiefs punt. On 1st and 10, Croyle looks right, cocks to throw but never does and is sacked for a 6 yard loss. On 2nd and 16, Croyle under throws Bowe deep and the ball is deflected by the defender for an incomplete pass. On 3rd and 16 from the shotgun position, Croyle throws a screen pass toward Charles into the hands of a defensive lineman for an incomplete pass. Chiefs punt. On 1st and 15 from the shotgun position, Croyle's 18 yard pass is well defended and falls incomplete. Tucker never gets his hands on the ball. On 2nd and 15 from the shotgun position, Croyle's 13 yard pass is knocked down by the defender and falls incomplete. Tucker never touches the ball. On 3rd and 15 from the shotgun position, Croyle steps up in the pocket, pump fakes and is sacked; never releasing the ball even though McCluster is apparently open near the first down marker. Chiefs punt. Palko enters the game and goes 2 of 3 for 8 yards. Croyle's day is done going 7 of 17 for 40 yards.
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