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Old 10-17-2013, 01:16 PM   #1
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This place melted down when we didn't draft geno smith too.

Truth be told Carr isn't worth 50 million and the defense in dallas isn't that great. The chiefs are the best in the league.

The fact is if you can improve your team by making a move you do it.
Which guys below make the team better than Flowers?


Rodger Saffold
Chris Cook
Dexter McCluster
Nate Allen
TJ Ward
Arrelious Benn
Koa Misi
Torrell Troup
Rob Gronkowski
Sergio Kindle
Lamarr Houston
Zane Beadles
Linval Joseph
Daryl Washington
Jimmy Clausen
Taylor Mays
Javier Arenas
Toby Gerhart
Jason Worilds
Jermaine Cunningham
Carlos Dunlap
Sean Lee
Mike Neal
Terrence Cody
Ben Tate
Montario Hardesty
Golden Tate
Vladimir Ducasse
Patrick Angerer
Charles Brown
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:39 PM   #2
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Which guys below make the team better than Flowers?


Rodger Saffold
Chris Cook
Dexter McCluster
Nate Allen
TJ Ward
Arrelious Benn
Koa Misi
Torrell Troup
Rob Gronkowski
Sergio Kindle
Lamarr Houston
Zane Beadles
Linval Joseph
Daryl Washington
Jimmy Clausen
Taylor Mays
Javier Arenas
Toby Gerhart
Jason Worilds
Jermaine Cunningham
Carlos Dunlap
Sean Lee
Mike Neal
Terrence Cody
Ben Tate
Montario Hardesty
Golden Tate
Vladimir Ducasse
Patrick Angerer
Charles Brown
Well you are cherry picking here but to answer your question:

Rob Gronkowski and Dunlap. You could make a case for several others like Ben Tate since we don't have a back up to Jamaal Charles.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:43 PM   #3
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Well you are cherry picking here but to answer your question:

Rob Gronkowski and Dunlap. You could make a case for several others like Ben Tate since we don't have a back up to Jamaal Charles.
I just picked a draft that guys had a chance to establish themselves a bit. 2010 was the first and only one that I've looked at.

Gronk is the only guys you can say for sure would offer more than Flowers at this point. No way on Dunlap and a backup RB or a top 10 CB? Serious?
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:49 PM   #4
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I just picked a draft that guys had a chance to establish themselves a bit. 2010 was the first and only one that I've looked at.

Gronk is the only guys you can say for sure would offer more than Flowers at this point. No way on Dunlap and a backup RB or a top 10 CB? Serious?
Flowers is a better player than Ben Tate however if Flowers were out the rest of this year the Chiefs would still have the best defense in the league.

If Jamaal Charles goes down who do we have? Ben Tate is a nice player who's only a backup because Arian Foster is one of the best backs in the league.

So tell me in 2014 how does John Dorsey make much needed improvements to the offense with limited gap space?
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:58 PM   #5
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Flowers is a better player than Ben Tate however if Flowers were out the rest of this year the Chiefs would still have the best defense in the league.

If Jamaal Charles goes down who do we have? Ben Tate is a nice player who's only a backup because Arian Foster is one of the best backs in the league.

So tell me in 2014 how does John Dorsey make much needed improvements to the offense with limited gap space?
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:17 PM   #6
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Any chance we keep Albert since Fisher is sucking the tit?

Any info on if KC is going after Nicks or Gordon? Jeff Chadhia confirmed that they're trying for TG
No one is going after Gordon. Hes pretty much untouchable at this point.
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This place melted down when we didn't pay Carr $50MM and now people are suggesting to trade Flowers because a late round draft pick cut by another team has had 3 solid games.
Just because YOU didn't know who Marcus Cooper was doesn't mean the rest of the league didn't. He wasn't cut because he was garbage, they cut him because they wanted him on the practice squad.
He was in a numbers game, and lost. If they had known Culliver was going down like that, he never would of been cut.
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For all of Alex Smiths faults, one of his more attractive traits, is his light salary.

Cutting Chase is far more the likely answer.
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No one is going after Gordon. Hes pretty much untouchable at this point.

Just because YOU didn't know who Marcus Cooper was doesn't mean the rest of the league didn't. He wasn't cut because he was garbage, they cut him because they wanted him on the practice squad.
He was in a numbers game, and lost. If they had known Culliver was going down like that, he never would of been cut.


For all of Alex Smiths faults, one of his more attractive traits, is his light salary.

Cutting Chase is far more the likely answer.
Fine cut Chase, turn the keys over to Bray and keep Alice as the backup. Improve the offense and save some money.
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Which guys below make the team better than Flowers?


Rodger Saffold
Chris Cook
Dexter McCluster
Nate Allen
TJ Ward
Arrelious Benn
Koa Misi
Torrell Troup
Rob Gronkowski
Sergio Kindle
Lamarr Houston
Zane Beadles
Linval Joseph
Daryl Washington
Jimmy Clausen
Taylor Mays
Javier Arenas
Toby Gerhart
Jason Worilds
Jermaine Cunningham
Carlos Dunlap
Sean Lee
Mike Neal
Terrence Cody
Ben Tate
Montario Hardesty
Golden Tate
Vladimir Ducasse
Patrick Angerer
Charles Brown
I don't know if any of these guys make the team much better.
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I don't know if any of these guys make the team much better.
Yeah, the point was you have about a 10% chance at best of finding a comparable player. A bird in the hand and all that jazz.

Just looked at 09. It's about the same. 3-4 guys that catch your eye and McCoy is the Gronk of that class.
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Yeah, the point was you have about a 10% chance at best of finding a comparable player. A bird in the hand and all that jazz.

Just looked at 09. It's about the same. 3-4 guys that catch your eye and McCoy is the Gronk of that class.
Even with the guys selected, I'm still not sure how much more value/impact they'd have than Flowers (sans Gronk, injury and all). It'd be nice to have another absolute monster playing ILB next to DJ but I'd rather be 3 deep at corner.
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