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[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yeah, and the problem is that you end up with Manuel in that situation.

If you have Manuel, you also have Foles.

Manuel gives you the Culpepper/Big Ben massive upside option, Foles gives you a tolerable fallback position if Manuel doesn't slide or doesn't develop.

Though I understand this scenario is completely unpalatable for folks that don't like Manuel. I'm just not in that group - I kinda like EJ.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If you have Manuel, you also have Foles.

Manuel gives you the Culpepper/Big Ben massive upside option, Foles gives you a tolerable fallback position if Manuel doesn't slide or doesn't develop.

Though I understand this scenario is completely unpalatable for folks that don't like Manuel. I'm just not in that group - I kinda like EJ.

I'd like to see us make a play for Foles, assuming the cost is realistic. We have to throw numbers at it, and I'd rather have Foles than Smith or Flynn.

But I want Smith or Barkley at the top of the draft.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If you have Manuel, you also have Foles.

Manuel gives you the Culpepper/Big Ben massive upside option, Foles gives you a tolerable fallback position if Manuel doesn't slide or doesn't develop.

Though I understand this scenario is completely unpalatable for folks that don't like Manuel. I'm just not in that group - I kinda like EJ.

I can see the Manuel Big Ben comp, and being a pretty big fan of his I woudln't mind that.

But again, I'm not sure that they would fit into the offense Reid wants to run.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I can see the Manuel Big Ben comp, and being a pretty big fan of his I woudln't mind that.

But again, I'm not sure that they would fit into the offense Reid wants to run.

It all depends on what we think he "wants to run".

Did he want to run the short/quick passing offense he ran during his early years in Philly or did he have to run it because he didn't have the downfield WRs?

Did he want to run the downfield, balls/bust offense he ran in Philly during his later years there or did he have to run it because Vick doesn't have the consistency to operate a short passing game.

He has two clearly different offenses that he's run with some success in the past. About the only constant has been his utilization of the runningback and it doesn't matter who's under center for that - Jamaal Charles is the evolutionary Brian Westbrook.

I'm just reluctant to cite 'his' offense at this point because frankly, he's done a lot of different stuff as a HC.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It all depends on what we think he "wants to run".

Did he want to run the short/quick passing offense he ran during his early years in Philly or did he have to run it because he didn't have the downfield WRs?

Did he want to run the downfield, balls/bust offense he ran in Philly during his later years there or did he have to run it because Vick doesn't have the consistency to operate a short passing game.

He has two clearly different offenses that he's run with some success in the past. About the only constant has been his utilization of the runningback and it doesn't matter who's under center for that - Jamaal Charles is the evolutionary Brian Westbrook.

I'm just reluctant to cite 'his' offense at this point because frankly, he's done a lot of different stuff as a HC.

Sure. He seems to do a great job putting his philosophy around the players he has. I'm just basing that on that he had the most success early.

I fully expect him to go with what we have and what he thinks they fit best with.