QB measurements at the combine

[DJ's left nut]

Yeah, you wouldn't want to run a pure WC system with him. He's never going to be a really precise passer.

But if you could build a downfield passing game with some read-option elements in it, you could have a heck of a weapon. It would have to be an unconventional attack and he definitely has warts, but his accuracy will play, IMO.

He's one of those guys that you get in trouble by drafting high. So many talents and there are a lot of good things about him, but the two bad things are really the worst ones - accuracy and ability to pick up an offense. I don't know that he can/can't do it, but he hasn't been asked to yet so that's certainly a red flag.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, you wouldn't want to run a pure WC system with him. He's never going to be a really precise passer.

But if you could build a downfield passing game with some read-option elements in it, you could have a heck of a weapon. It would have to be an unconventional attack and he definitely has warts, but his accuracy will play, IMO.

He's one of those guys that you get in trouble by drafting high. So many talents and there are a lot of good things about him, but the two bad things are really the worst ones - accuracy and ability to pick up an offense. I don't know that he can/can't do it, but he hasn't been asked to yet so that's certainly a red flag.

I'm just not about non accurate QB's anymore after what we've seen the last few. I know you can't go to the opposite end of the spectrum and yes, he has some good tools, but man, he's got alot of rough edges too.


If Reid wants to run the system he's always ran, I'm not sure he has the accuracy to do it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm just not about non accurate QB's anymore after what we've seen the last few. I know you can't go to the opposite end of the spectrum and yes, he has some good tools, but man, he's got alot of rough edges too.


If Reid wants to run the system he's always ran, I'm not sure he has the accuracy to do it.

This is probably true.

Manuel's not a good fit for Reid's system as we know it. That said, the way he tweaked it for Vick (use your legs to create space downfield - bombs away) could certainly fit EJ.

We'd need to do a lot of work on the WR corp, though. Bowe is a good start, but we'd need a Harvin or Maclin to spread defenses downfield.

The simplest, safest answers are Geno, Barkley, Wilson (in that order, IMO); but an extremely ballsy alternative would be trading down with Philly, picking up another freak of nature like Floyd to play alongside Poe and grabbing Manuel.

I don't have the cajones to try it because that's the kind of boom/bust draft that could get you fired, but if it all worked out, it could be !@#$ing unbelievable.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This is probably true.

Manuel's not a good fit for Reid's system as we know it. That said, the way he tweaked it for Vick (use your legs to create space downfield - bombs away) could certainly fit EJ.

We'd need to do a lot of work on the WR corp, though. Bowe is a good start, but we'd need a Harvin or Maclin to spread defenses downfield.

The simplest, safest answers are Geno, Barkley, Wilson (in that order, IMO); but an extremely ballsy alternative would be trading down with Philly, picking up another freak of nature like Floyd to play alongside Poe and grabbing Manuel.

I don't have the cajones to try it because that's the kind of boom/bust draft that could get you fired, but if it all worked out, it could be !@#$ing unbelievable.

Well, you could get a good start on that at WR in this draft, few pretty good burners and Floyd is absolutely a monster. Hell, some have advocated for taking Richardson at 1, but there is no way I'd do that.

In that situation, who would Philly be trading up for?

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well, you could get a good start on that at WR in this draft, few pretty good burners and Floyd is absolutely a monster. Hell, some have advocated for taking Richardson at 1, but there is no way I'd do that.

In that situation, who would Philly be trading up for?

Philly would be trading up for Geno Smith

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well, you could get a good start on that at WR in this draft, few pretty good burners and Floyd is absolutely a monster. Hell, some have advocated for taking Richardson at 1, but there is no way I'd do that.

In that situation, who would Philly be trading up for?

Geno.

Guys talked about that Giants pass-rush in hushed tones last season, but if the Chiefs had Sharrif Floyd and Dontari Poe pushing as 1-gaps and Houston/Hali attacking...damn, that would be filthy.

But it would all likely be for naught if you Manuel couldn't do the job (oh, and Floyd is a pretty raw prospect in his own right).

It's just interesting to think about. It's probably not smart, but you can only say "Draft Geno" so many time before you start looking for other stuff to talk about...

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Geno.

Guys talked about that Giants pass-rush in hushed tones last season, but if the Chiefs had Sharrif Floyd and Dontari Poe pushing as 1-gaps and Houston/Hali attacking...damn, that would be filthy.

But it would all likely be for naught if you Manuel couldn't do the job (oh, and Floyd is a pretty raw prospect in his own right).

It's just interesting to think about. It's probably not smart, but you can only say "Draft Geno" so many time before you start looking for other stuff to talk about...

I'll admit, after whats gone down in the past few years, I'm pretty jaded on taking a DL that early. I would much much rather get one of those guys in free agency or later in the draft. There are actually some interesting guys in free agency DL wise.

I know Floyd has alot of upside etc, but it is what it is.