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View Poll Results: Which player would you most want on your team?
Anthony Munoz 2 1.89%
Deacon Jones 3 2.83%
Aaron Rodgers 97 91.51%
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:01 PM  
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Just how valuable is a QB?
This poll has obvious "ulterior" motives - but play it out.

Would you rather have a Top 5 QB in the current NFL or the greatest left tackle of all time or the greatest pass-rusher of all time?

Poll forthcoming.
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:58 AM   #46
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:58 AM   #47
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When it is all said and done, I wonder if the Rams will regret getting a haul of players and passing on RGIII?
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:01 AM   #48
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Who are the trolls that voted against Rodgers?
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:36 AM   #49
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When it is all said and done, I wonder if the Rams will regret getting a haul of players and passing on RGIII?
No, but only because the Redskins seem hell bent on breaking him.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:39 AM   #50
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A more representative question of the issue would be...

All things being equal, would you rather take a 2% chance on the next Aaron Rodgers who's probably just a decent starter, or a 50% chance on an All Pro caliber tackle, who's probably just going to be a very good tackle.

Keep in mind, you do have picks in the future where you can take a shot at future Aaron Rodgers who might have a higher than 2% chance of hitting.

Becomes a bit cloudier, doesn't it.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:40 AM   #51
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And worst of all Alex Smith is backed up by Stanzi?

Are you kidding me? and don't even get started on that midget with 6 passes under his belt in 4 years.

Daniels was undrafted, cut 5 times by 2 different teams and he's the backup to Alex Smith going down and people are OK with this?

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Old 04-05-2013, 10:42 AM   #52
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A more representative question of the issue would be...

All things being equal, would you rather take a 2% chance on the next Aaron Rodgers who's probably just a decent starter, or a 50% chance on an All Pro caliber tackle, who's probably just going to be a very good tackle.

Keep in mind, you do have picks in the future where you can take a shot at future Aaron Rodgers who might have a higher than 2% chance of hitting.

Becomes a bit cloudier, doesn't it.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:44 AM   #53
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A more representative question of the issue would be...

All things being equal, would you rather take a 2% chance on the next Aaron Rodgers who's probably just a decent starter, or a 50% chance on an All Pro caliber tackle, who's probably just going to be a very good tackle.

Keep in mind, you do have picks in the future where you can take a shot at future Aaron Rodgers who might have a higher than 2% chance of hitting.

Becomes a bit cloudier, doesn't it.
Also, add into it that your family JUST moved into Kansas City, is getting settled, and your job is likely on the line with the QB you draft, which also precludes you from taking any other high-ranking QB prospects in the next two years, even if their percentage of Rodgering would be higher.

We get lifetime tenures as fans. It is not that easy for coaches, who have to calculate risk into everything they do.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:47 AM   #54
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A more representative question of the issue would be...

All things being equal, would you rather take a 2% chance on the next Aaron Rodgers who's probably just a decent starter, or a 50% chance on an All Pro caliber tackle, who's probably just going to be a very good tackle.

Keep in mind, you do have picks in the future where you can take a shot at future Aaron Rodgers who might have a higher than 2% chance of hitting.

Becomes a bit cloudier, doesn't it.
So now Geno Smith has a 2% chance of being the next Aaron Rodgers but Joeckel has a 50% chance of being an All Pro LT? ****ing stupid.

You also have future picks to spend on that 50% shot at an All Pro LT. You know....the one from the same team and is a better OT overall.
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:47 AM   #55
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And worst of all Alex Smith is backed up by Stanzi?

Are you kidding me? and don't even get started on that midget with 6 passes under his belt in 4 years.

Daniels was undrafted, cut 5 times by 2 different teams and he's the backup to Alex Smith going down and people are OK with this?

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That's not a very accurate estimation where Chase Daniel is now as an NFL player.
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Also, add into it that your family JUST moved into Kansas City, is getting settled, and your job is likely on the line with the QB you draft, which also precludes you from taking any other high-ranking QB prospects in the next two years, even if their percentage of Rodgering would be higher.

We get lifetime tenures as fans. It is not that easy for coaches, who have to calculate risk into everything they do.
Dorsey and Reid are getting 4-5 years minimum. The only way they don't is not winning more than 3-4 games per season. Plus they have Alex Smith for 2 years. Their best situation right now is to take Geno....because if Smith and Smith don't work out in 2-3 years....they'll have one more legitimate shot to draft a QB.
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So now Geno Smith has a 2% chance of being the next Aaron Rodgers but Joeckel has a 50% chance of being an All Pro LT?
All Pro caliber, at least, yes.

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You also have future picks to spend on that 50% shot at an All Pro LT. You know....the one from the same team and is a better OT overall.
You could.

But the debate isn't about the LT, really. It's about do you want to hamstring your chances at drafting a franchise QB in the next two years by spending 1.1 on a 2% chance of an All Pro QB? A guy with some serious bust potential, at that?

I don't agree with the decision Reid is making, but to claim it's incomprehensible is wrong.
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Dorsey and Reid are getting 4-5 years minimum. The only way they don't is not winning more than 3-4 games per season. Plus they have Alex Smith for 2 years. Their best situation right now is to take Geno....because if Smith and Smith don't work out in 2-3 years....they'll have one more legitimate shot to draft a QB.
I don't disagree with the last part of your post.

But there was no clause in Reid's contract guaranteeing him 4-5 years minimum. If I'm Andy Reid, I absolutely cannot act like I'm getting half a decade for free.
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All Pro caliber, at least, yes.



You could.

But the debate isn't about the LT, really. It's about do you want to hamstring your chances at drafting a franchise QB in the next two years by spending 1.1 on a 2% chance of an All Pro QB? A guy with some serious bust potential, at that?

I don't agree with the decision Reid is making, but to claim it's incomprehensible is wrong.
Here is my main problem with this offseason. A good majority of the posters who are "Geno fanatics" are legitimately saying that there is about a 5% chance that we draft him. The people who are against Geno are saying that there is a 0% chance that we draft him. Who is more realistic?

No one knows shit.

But I love how Geno is at 2% and Joeckel is at 50%. FWIW.....every ****ing player in this draft is at 50% because no one knows shit.
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In today's NFL - QB is the most important position on the team. There are a bunch of idiots here, but we all seem to grasp that concept according to the poll...
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