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Old 11-04-2018, 05:35 PM   #1
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If the clock isn't running...then it's an intentional grounding


That's not in the rulebook.

There is no "spike" section in intentional grounding.

Rules aren't open to "interpretation" they are ironclad.

At the VERY LEAST a QB has to be under pressure for grounding to be called.

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Old 11-04-2018, 05:39 PM   #2
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That's not in the rulebook.

There is no "spike" section in intentional grounding.

Rules aren't open to "interpretation" they are ironclad.

At the VERY LEAST a QB has to be under pressure for grounding to be called.

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Per item 3:

"player under center is permitted to stop the game clock legally to save time"

If the clock isn't running, then therefore the player is not legally stopping the clock to save time; e.g. intentional grounding is the correct call.
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:30 PM   #3
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That's the confusing part. As soon as the ball is snapped, the clock is running, therefore you can spike the ball
But there's ostensibly no reason to, if the clock is stopped...you just call a play and run the play.

The only reason to spike the ball is if the clock is running...

Right?

So...therefore, the ONLY time a spike would be valid would be when it's permitted to stop a running clock.

The clock was stopped after the penalty.

Mahomes may have actually committed intentional grounding, it's just that the refs AND the announcers didn't quite know how to explain WHY...
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:32 PM   #4
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But there's ostensibly no reason to, if the clock is stopped...you just call a play and run the play.

The only reason to spike the ball is if the clock is running...

Right?

So...therefore, the ONLY time a spike would be valid would be when it's permitted to stop a running clock.

The clock was stopped after the penalty.

Mahomes may have actually committed intentional grounding, it's just that the refs AND the announcers didn't quite know how to explain WHY...
Again there was no pressure by the defense. If a team wants to just spike the ball three straight downs and punt, they should be allowed to do so.
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:36 PM   #5
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Again there was no pressure by the defense. If a team wants to just spike the ball three straight downs and punt, they should be allowed to do so.
Not according to the rules.

The spike play is ONLY to be used to stop the clock.

If it's not used to stop a running clock, it's then intentional grounding, no matter what.

According to the rules.

The clock was stopped.

You CAN'T spike the ball if the clock is stopped.

According to the rules. The pressure part never came into play because the clock was not going to start until the ball was snapped.

He should've ran a ****ing play.

According to me.

Classic Andy ****ing Reid clock management, Full Reidtard gonna get us killed in the playoffs.
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:39 PM   #6
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Not according to the rules.

The spike play is ONLY to be used to stop the clock.

If it's not used to stop a running clock, it's then intentional grounding, no matter what.

According to the rules.

The clock was stopped.

You CAN'T spike the ball if the clock is stopped.

According to the rules. The pressure part never came into play because the clock was not going to start until the ball was snapped.

He should've ran a ****ing play.

According to me.

Classic Andy ****ing Reid clock management, Full Reidtard gonna get us killed in the playoffs.
Paste the section of the rule book stating this, and also, how is the clock not running as soon as the ball is snapped, thus allowing the ball to be spiked
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:39 PM   #7
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You CAN'T spike the ball if the clock is stopped.

According to the rules.
Where does it say this?

Where does it then say an intentional grounding penalty is then to be levied?

Cite the section of the rulebook. Show me.

You're just making shit up that literally IS NOT IN THE RULEBOOK.

Just like that fat moron ref.
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:34 PM   #8
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So...therefore, the ONLY time a spike would be valid would be when it's permitted to stop a running clock.
WRONG.

That's not in the rulebook.

The only stipulation for a legal spike is that he take the snap and immediately throw the ball into the ground.

THAT'S IT.

THAT IS A LEGAL SPIKE, no matter what else is happening on the play.
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But there's ostensibly no reason to, if the clock is stopped...you just call a play and run the play.

The only reason to spike the ball is if the clock is running...

Right?

So...therefore, the ONLY time a spike would be valid would be when it's permitted to stop a running clock.

The clock was stopped after the penalty.

Mahomes may have actually committed intentional grounding, it's just that the refs AND the announcers didn't quite know how to explain WHY...
But he didn't. We are seeing it thrown around that the ball can only be spiked if the game.clock is running, but that is literally not in the rule book. Not to mention, as soon as the ball is snapped the clock is running

Agree that there was no reason to spike the ball, but that doesn't make it illegal
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:40 PM   #10
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Should it of been delay of game?
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:44 PM   #11
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Should it of been delay of game?
No. Just looked at that section.

It should have been an incomplete pass and the fat moron ref should have then shut his ****ing mouth.
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:46 PM   #12
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"player under center is permitted to stop the game clock legally to save time"

If the clock isn't running, then therefore the player is not legally stopping the clock to save time; e.g. intentional grounding is the correct call.
But why is it illegal when it still meets all the other legal definitions of spiking the ball while not under pressure?

It feels to me the added this rule to clarify/reiterate that spikes were legal - not to declare a spike when the game clock isn't running illegal. Declaring something legal doesn't necessarily make other related things illegal.

I was assuming it was illegal at first because I was taking other sites' interpretation of the rule at face value.
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Why wasn't the clock running if the penalty was declined. Have I just never noticed that it stops?
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Why wasn't the clock running if the penalty was declined. Have I just never noticed that it stops?
The clock always stops after a defensive penalty.

It's supposed to start again when the ball is spotted/ref gives the ready to play signal.
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