Chiefs Who is our first rd pick? - Page 11

RunKC · 10:58 AM

It’s that time fellas! Little over 3 weeks out and it’s in our house!

I’ll put 2 options here.

1. Who do we pick if we sign a vet WR (Hopkins?) before the draft.

2 who do we pick if we don’t sign anyone else before the draft.

Who ya got?

htismaqe · 04-06-2023, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Why would Taylor play RT when we just gave him $20 million? I don’t think that would happen tbh. I think if they drafted Anton Harrison he’d start at RT

And by the way, I never said Taylor would play RT. In fact, I've been 100% adamant that he's going to play LT.

It's not me that thinks Taylor is going to be the RT. But it is a large percentage of Chiefs fans.

Mecca · 04-06-2023, 01:38 PM

If Harrison falls in the Chiefs lap and all the impact WR's are gone then hey I can see it, but trading up are being like we must go OT is ignorant.

UChieffyBugger · 04-06-2023, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It makes too much sense for most Chiefs fans. Most Chiefs fans are still buried in a 90's mentality.

Make no mistake about it, the Chiefs did not give Taylor $80M to play RT.

If you have a LT on a rookie deal that Taylor contract means nothing as long as the whole line is good.

htismaqe · 04-06-2023, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

But even still. One rookie WR? In this system? Is that gonna solve the problem day 1?

I missed this the first time around.

You openly admit there's a problem that you don't think a rookie WR can solve. If there's not a rookie WR that can rectify the issue, how in the world does the existing WR room rectify anything?

htismaqe · 04-06-2023, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

If you have a LT on a rookie deal that Taylor contract means nothing as long as the whole line is good.

Well, they won't have a LT on a rookie deal, so there's that. They've got their LT. Get used to it.

Mecca · 04-06-2023, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

If you have a LT on a rookie deal that Taylor contract means nothing as long as the whole line is good.

The point is, it's not needed. There is no need to trade picks to secure a LT. If one falls to you and he's the best on your board, alright.

Mecca · 04-06-2023, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I missed this the first time around.

You openly admit there's a problem that you don't think a rookie WR can solve. If there's not a rookie WR that can rectify the issue, how in the world does the existing WR room rectify anything?

Apparently his strategy is to just hope Mahomes can make a band of scrubs look alright.

Mecca · 04-06-2023, 01:45 PM

I want this question answered..

If you think OT is worse than WR, why would you be willing to count on Kadarious Toney and not Lucas Niang, they're the same damn guy.

RunKC · 04-06-2023, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Jordan Addison?

I don't for a second think NE is taking a WR.

I’m not as high on him as others are. He’s a lanky weak guy who needs to get stronger. I also think his 4.49 was slow and 1.56 wasn’t even top 30 among WR’s at the combine.

So he’s not a fight through the tackles guy. He’s not a top end speed guy. He’s relying on route running correct? If so, did we not just draft Skyy Moore to do that?

Idk man. I like the value at WR in rd 2 so much more than rd 1. Rice, Downs, Mims, Palmer, etc.

htismaqe · 04-06-2023, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I want this question answered..

If you think OT is worse than WR, why would you be willing to count on Kadarious Toney and not Lucas Niang, they're the same damn guy.

Actually, Toney is a little worse. Niang has missed time due to a couple of really catastrophic injuries. Toney, on the other hand, has missed a ton of games due to nagging little injuries, notably his hamstrings.

Niang really isn't injury PRONE, he's just been injured a couple of times that resulted in extended absences. Toney's picture is in the dictionary next to "injury prone".

Mecca · 04-06-2023, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Actually, Toney is a little worse. Niang has missed time due to a couple of really catastrophic injuries. Toney, on the other hand, has missed a ton of games due to nagging little injuries, notably his hamstrings.

Niang really isn't injury PRONE, he's just been injured a couple of times that resulted in extended absences. Toney's picture is in the dictionary next to "injury prone".

I'm just evening it out because I think Toney is a bit better player when they both play.

RunKC · 04-06-2023, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I missed this the first time around.

You openly admit there's a problem that you don't think a rookie WR can solve. If there's not a rookie WR that can rectify the issue, how in the world does the existing WR room rectify anything?

Kadarius Toney and Skyy Moore. Andy said he expects big jumps fr on there in their 2nd year in the system.

They could have easily brought back Hardman or Juju at their contracts they got. It was chump change. But they didn’t.

Idk. Seems like their actions so far are showing their belief in them. We’ll see on draft day

UChieffyBugger · 04-06-2023, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I can't figure out the group who thinks we are ok at WR because we did it with a skeleton crew to an extent and won a SB last year, yet think we have to have this iron clad OL when we won it last year with iffy tackles

How is it ok for one and not hte other?

So you'd rather pick a second round WR in the first (which is what we would be doing) who is NOT likely to be a massive factor first year (because rookie wideouts never are under Reid) over one of the good OT's who are probably gonna fall to us? Not for me I'll take an AT Perry or Rashee Rice in the second/third round over Jalen Hyet in the first thank you.

htismaqe · 04-06-2023, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I’m not as high on him as others are. He’s a lanky weak guy who needs to get stronger. I also think his 4.49 was slow and 1.56 wasn’t even top 30 among WR’s at the combine.

So he’s not a fight through the tackles guy. He’s not a top end speed guy. He’s relying on route running correct? If so, did we not just draft Skyy Moore to do that?

Idk man. I like the value at WR in rd 2 so much more than rd 1. Rice, Downs, Mims, Palmer, etc.

Then take a DL in the 1st or another BPA. They don't NEED an OT and the only reason to take a tackle at 31 is if one of the top guys literally drops all the way to 31.

Mecca · 04-06-2023, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Kadarius Toney and Skyy Moore. Andy said he expects big jumps fr on there in their 2nd year in the system.

They could have easily brought back Hardman or Juju at their contracts they got. It was chump change. But they didn’t.

Idk. Seems like their actions so far are showing their belief in them. We’ll see on draft day

If you think Toney can play everyday then you should have 0 problem relying on Lucas Niang.

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2427050	I want this question answered.. If you think OT is worse than WR, why would you be willing to count on Kadarious Toney and not Lucas Niang, they're the same damn guy.
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