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Old 04-27-2008, 12:42 PM   Topic Starter
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Draft Reality Check
I'm thrilled with this year's draft as many of you are. However...

Reality check:

KC allowed 55 sacks last year (T-last)
KC rushed for 78 YPG last year (last).

I'm all excited about the DT, CBs, WR, RB, etc... but this was supposed to be the draft that addressed the OL.

Right now we are looking at just 4 starters: Albert, Waters, MacIntosh and Niswanger. No telling who will play what and there ain't crap there for depth.

Remember, Gailey will run a lot of 2-TE sets with downhill rushing plays. I'm not seeing the kind of top tier OL that can get that done here.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:43 PM   #2
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:44 PM   #3
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How many posts are you going to make whining about the draft?

Seriously, just tell me a number so I know when to stop ignoring you.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:45 PM   #4
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I guess we're starting Wade Smith at center and Niswanger at guard. I was hoping we'd pick up another guard or center, but we had to have that blocking TE in the third.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:49 PM   #5
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I guess we're starting Wade Smith at center and Niswanger at guard. I was hoping we'd pick up another guard or center, but we had to have that blocking TE in the third.
I'm all for the youth movement and I understand the policy of BPA.

However, what about all that caution about trying to develop a young QB who is running for his life and has no rushing attack to fall back on? Those 2 stats (dead last in pass protect and rushing) are not going to improve because we might have the best defense in the AFCW. I also agree with the strategy of stocking talent but the place we most needed talent was OL. Just my $.02.
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:53 PM   #6
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I'm all for the youth movement and I understand the policy of BPA.

However, what about all that caution about trying to develop a young QB who is running for his life and has no rushing attack to fall back on? Those 2 stats (dead last in pass protect and rushing) are not going to improve because we might have the best defense in the AFCW. I also agree with the strategy of stocking talent but the place we most needed talent was OL. Just my $.02.
Who says we haven't improved it for Brodie? Albert most definitely should be a major upgrade, and getting Wiegmann out of there might be an upgrade (he certainly was part of the problem last year). You can't fix it all in one draft. We did spend a first-round pick on OL. We'll add depth with UDFAs.

The OL should be better next year, and even better in 2009. Baby steps.
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Old 04-27-2008, 05:52 PM   #7
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One of the deepest drafts in years for OLineman and the chiefs take exactly one in the first five rounds. And you people think it's all gravy. Did you forget already how awful the OLine is?
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Old 04-27-2008, 05:54 PM   #8
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One of the deepest drafts in years for OLineman and the chiefs take exactly one in the first five rounds. And you people think it's all gravy. Did you forget already how awful the OLine is?
Odds are they took exactly one in the first five rounds because it was one of the deepest drafts in years for o-line. They got great value in the sixth and there's a lot of undrafted talent.
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Old 04-27-2008, 06:15 PM   #9
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One of the deepest drafts in years for OLineman and the chiefs take exactly one in the first five rounds. And you people think it's all gravy. Did you forget already how awful the OLine is?
Richardson will be the steal of the draft. Additionally, the Chiefs have high hopes for Herb Taylor, who will be in his second year.

There was NO reason to rush out and draft every available lineman at each position.

This team is at least one more solid draft away from 8-8.

And that's only if Croyle doesn't completely suck.
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Old 04-27-2008, 01:32 PM   #10
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No shit. When did rebuilding only last one freaking season?
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Old 04-27-2008, 01:34 PM   #11
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No shit. When did rebuilding only last one freaking season?

Uh, never.

But God knows the fan base is in a mad rush to get back to 8- as soon as possible, value for picks and getting BPA's be damned.
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Old 04-27-2008, 03:39 PM   #12
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Consistently taking the best athlete available is how you end up like the oakland raiders.

Teams that are consistently at the top (new england, pittsburgh etc.) draft for quality across the board rather than a few superstars.
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Old 04-27-2008, 03:40 PM   #13
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Consistently taking the best athlete available is how you end up like the oakland raiders.

Teams that are consistently at the top (new england, pittsburgh etc.) draft for quality across the board rather than a few superstars.
nobody said best athlete available

best player available
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Old 04-27-2008, 03:41 PM   #14
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Consistently taking the best athlete available is how you end up like the oakland raiders.

Teams that are consistently at the top (new england, pittsburgh etc.) draft for quality across the board rather than a few superstars.
I agree to a point. You have to be balanced, need & BAA. We usually reached for positions of need with guys who were terrible projects.

Now we picked the best guys, but still picked a good spread of them. That's why it's a great draft.
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Uh, never.

But God knows the fan base is in a mad rush to get back to 8- as soon as possible, value for picks and getting BPA's be damned.
If we get 8 wins this season I will be ecstatic
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