What is so special about Clausen?

[Mr. Laz]

ok ... so alot of us are looking at Clausen. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Clausen but imo should we be looking at a special guy.

let's face it, the drafturbators just want a big named QB and they don't really give a shit whether the guy is really any good. They have lost their dam minds.

But ... what about the rest of us with a little bit of rationality left in our heads.

Is there anything Elite about Jimmy Clausen? Is he really worth the #5 pick?

Bradford - Elite Accuracy, superior football I.Q., NFL Size
Tebow - elite character, great athletic skills,great motivation
Clausen - ??
McCoy - ??


so let's hear it ... what is ELITE about Jimmy Clausen?

[DeezNutz]

His understanding, approach, and preparation level are all elite.

His physical attributes are all above average.

[Hammock Parties]

Accuracy by all accounts is special.

[DeezNutz]

If we're going to call Bradford's accuracy "elite," it's absolutely appropriate to make the same claim about Clausen's.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Laz

ok ... so alot of us are looking at Clausen. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Clausen but imo should we be looking at a special guy.

let's face it, the drafturbators just want a big named QB and they don't really give a shit whether the guy is really any good. They have lost their dam minds.

But ... what about the rest of us with a little bit of rationality left in our heads.

Is there anything Elite about Jimmy Clausen? Is he really worth the #5 pick?

Bradford - Elite Accuracy, superior football I.Q., NFL Size
Tebow - elite character, great athletic skills,great motivation
Clausen - ??
McCoy - ??


so let's hear it ... what is ELITE about Jimmy Clausen?

I think the issue is moreso why a lot of critics are criticizing character, when character has never really been an issue in his career. In fact, I've heard that in terms of psychological testing, he tested extremely well. So those who say he's the next Ryan Leaf are talking out of their ass.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If we're going to call Bradford's accuracy "elite," it's absolutely appropriate to make the same claim about Clausen's.

really ... you think Clausen is as accurate as Bradford?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Clausen has elite accuracy and touch on his passes. Now, some would say Bradford has elite accuracy as well. But Clausen also has what no other qb has in this class; an elite level of pro style experience and know how on running an NFL style offense.

While I was higher on Sanchez because of Mark's upside, Jimmy is a better prospect right now, today. Potential doesn't mean shit until it's realized.

I'm convinced that Jimmy will be the super star quarterback out of this class.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Clausen's "character" issues are media driven only. There is absolutely no evidence that it's accurate at all.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If we're going to call Bradford's accuracy "elite," it's absolutely appropriate to make the same claim about Clausen's.

Yup. Almost identical completion percentages at their best, and Clausen doesn't play in the spread.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Laz

really ... you think Clausen is as accurate as Bradford?

I think they're comparable.

Bradford's skill set is largely underrated on this board, but I have a real hard time defining his accuracy as "elite" because we don't know how it will translate when he is consistently throwing into extremely tight windows.

And I agree with others in this thread that the media is casting a long negative shadow over all things Clausen, at the moment.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I think they're comparable.

Bradford's skill set is largely underrated on this board, but I have a real hard time defining his accuracy as "elite" because we don't know how it will translate when he is consistently throwing into extremely tight windows.

Or making those throws when he's under pressure.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Clausen also has what no other qb has in this class; an elite level of pro style experience and know how on running an NFL style offense.

yea ... but knowing a pro style offense is really just a head start, isn't it?

eventually that will even out unless Bradford,Tebow,McCoy have some inability to learn.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Or making those throws when he's under pressure.

Absolutely.

And when Bradford has been under duress in his college career, the results have been underwhelming.

Grain of salt, of course, since pressure negatively affects all QBs.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Laz

yea ... but knowing a pro style offense is really just a head start, isn't it?

eventually that will even out unless Bradford,Tebow,McCoy have some inability to learn.

That must mean that generally, college spread QB's are stupid.

It has only "evened out" for two spread QB's in the history of the league.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Laz

yea ... but knowing a pro style offense is really just a head start, isn't it?

eventually that will even out unless Bradford,Tebow,McCoy have some inability to learn.

A head start from a place that some never have the capability of reaching, so I have a hard time defining it as such.

Being able to operate from a pro-set isn't a given or a natural progression.