****Official Royals Vs. Tampa Bay Double Header Gamethread 7/7****

[Jim Lahey]

Watch NY botch it

[GloryDayz]

Ugh

[C3HIEF3S]

That's the right call, Hosmer's foot was clearly off.

[petegz28]

foot off....okay, fair enough...was a good try

[WhawhaWhat]

Good call, foot was off the bag.

[eDave]

That's the best angle they have?

[Three7s]

Think Hosmer's foot is off the bag when the ball hits his glove...
Hosmer was covering 2nd?

[GloryDayz]

Watch NY botch itI think they got it right actually.

Let's not be the Denver Broncos here! :D:D:D:D

[cosmo20002]

Throw by esky could have been better.

[Hootie]

Throw by esky could have been better.

DFA him?

[cosmo20002]

CAIN WOULDVE HAD IT

[cosmo20002]

DFA him?

Sure, re-sign him in 10 days.

[petegz28]

I absolutely hate this tactic of leaving a gassed pitcher in the game until he allows a baserunner. I know it wasn't Young's fault, but getting six out of Young on a day when he wasn't great is a bonus. Why press your luck, especially when you've got the deepest bullpen in the game?

I agree with this. Especially because Herrera seems to do better starting the inning than coming in....


And now it's about to cost us

[Hootie]

I'm sorry, but Herrera needs A FUCKING OUT PITCH. I'm so tired of him and his 100 MPH fastball with no fucking out pitch. How has this guy developed NOTHING? If he developed ANYTHING OTHER THAN HIS FASTBALL, he'd be fucking unhittable. His secondary pitches are fucking awful.

[Hootie]

here comes an easy sac fly because all he has is a fastball

[cosmo20002]

here comes an easy sac fly because all he has is a fastball

.

[Jim Lahey]

HAH GOT HEEM

[ChiTown]

K!

That's his out pitch:D

[suzzer99]

There's your out pitch.

[Strongside]

Sit down bitch.

[C3HIEF3S]

One more Kelvin..

[GloryDayz]

OK, that was a look! LOL...

[Hootie]

I mean, how hard can it be when you throw 100 MPH to figure out how to throw something other than a 90 MPH changeup? It's hurts me to watch a guy this good have NOTHING to offer other than a fastball.

[ChiTown]

STFD! Side out!

[SPchief]

Sit down bitch!

[C3HIEF3S]

Un-fucking-real.

[petegz28]

nice...now score some flipping runs already...okay some more runs

[GloryDayz]

Sit down man... You just got nut-punched by an AS!

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Awesome.

[duncan_idaho]

I absolutely hate this tactic of leaving a gassed pitcher in the game until he allows a baserunner. I know it wasn't Young's fault, but getting six out of Young on a day when he wasn't great is a bonus. Why press your luck, especially when you've got the deepest bullpen in the game?

I'll give him a small pass on it today because of the double header. But yeah, he has a tendency to rely too much on his starter's into the 7th.

I suspect/hope as the year goes on, he will get more aggressive about going Madson/Herrera/Davis/Holland in order in these spots.

[suzzer99]

Butler wanted zero part of Herrera.

[Strongside]

Wow. That was impressive.

[Jim Lahey]

I mean, how hard can it be when you throw 100 MPH to figure out how to throw something other than a 90 MPH changeup? It's hurts me to watch a guy this good have NOTHING to offer other than a fastball.

Well....it kinda works.

[Hootie]

I can only imagine how good he would be, with that fastball, if he had a chat with Wade or Greg and said, "hey guys, how do you throw one of your secondary pitches?"

[cosmo20002]

I'm sorry, but Herrera needs A ****ING OUT PITCH. I'm so tired of him and his 100 MPH fastball with no ****ing out pitch. How has this guy developed NOTHING? If he developed ANYTHING OTHER THAN HIS FASTBALL, he'd be ****ing unhittable. His secondary pitches are ****ing awful.

here comes an easy sac fly because all he has is a fastball

Runner forgot to tag on the fly ball.
Of course, the fly ball didn't travel very far.

[WilliamTheIrish]

"It's about to cost us"!!!!!!!

[Hootie]

Herrera is our 4th best reliever though, despite how sick his fastball is. I just want to point that out. He could potentially be our best if he wasn't the latin Kyle Farnsworth.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

here comes an easy sac fly because all he has is a fastball

:hmmm:

[eDave]

"It's about to cost us"!!!!!!!

It was.

[siberian khatru]

"It's about to cost us"!!!!!!!

ROFL

[Strongside]

Herrera will need to develop an out pitch as he ages, but when you can throw gas like that consistently you can get by without it. Especially when the hitters have seen a guy like Chris Young all day. The change of speed alone is enough to fuck up any lineup in the league.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Herrera is our 4th best reliever though, despite how sick his fastball is. I just want to point that out. He could potentially be our best if he wasn't the latin Kyle Farnsworth.

HAHAHAHA oh my gosh, dude.

[WilliamTheIrish]

It was.

You could say that about... Oh... Every pitch thrown.

That was some fine work by KH.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Gordon on base four times today.

[Strongside]

Gordon is like the kid from Rookie of the year. Breaks a bone and becomes even better.

[petegz28]

It was.

Never mind them..he and some others love to come in with their hindsight...

1st & 3rd, 1 out has a 64% chance of scoring a run.....

[Strongside]

Herrera is our 4th best reliever though, despite how sick his fastball is. I just want to point that out. He could potentially be our best if he wasn't the latin Kyle Farnsworth.

Oof. I dunno man. I'd put him 2nd behind Davis.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Hootie going full-on, bat-shit Hootie in here today.

[petegz28]

You could say that about... Oh... Every pitch thrown.

That was some fine work by KH.

Odds favor scoring a run with men on 1st & 3rd with 1 out....so take your hindsight and step

[Strongside]

Please throw Morales a meat fastball here.

[duncan_idaho]

I've seen Herrera throw a really good curve with big break, but he's really inconsistent with it.

Some guys have a really hard time developing a feel for the secondary pitches... I wonder what his hand size is. Sometimes guys with smaller hands have a hard time controlling the ball enough to manipulate it really well...

[C3HIEF3S]

2 on no outs for Eric Hosmer!!!!!



Triple play coming up

[petegz28]

okay..Hosmer....no swinging for the fences...try not looking like a choking, douche bag in front of your woman ....

[Strongside]

I've seen Herrera throw a really curve curve with big break, but he's really inconsistent with it.

Some guys have a really hard time developing a feel for the secondary pitches... I wonder what his hand size is. Sometimes guys with smaller hands have a hard time controlling the ball enough to manipulate it really well...

I like women with smaller hands because they make my balls look bigger.

[C3HIEF3S]

Nice job Eric.

[petegz28]

a bunt???? YOU FUCKING IDIOT!

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Hosmer cannot do anything right right now.

[Discuss Thrower]

https://cavegirlculture.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/but-why-ogif.gif

[WilliamTheIrish]

Odds favor scoring a run with men on 1st & 3rd with 1 out....so take your hindsight and step

Pete, your repeating of a stat doesn't make you any smarter. Every game you're a moron.

Oh look! Cedeno is "going to cost them"!!!!!

(foresight)

[Why Not?]

Stupid

[Strongside]

Hosmer has gone full-on Tiger Woods.

[cosmo20002]

Gordon on base four times today.

Gordon is half-robot, I'm convinced.
He's programmed to hit .260 with 19 HRs. As soon as his average gets to .270, he is programmed to drop down to .250, then up again.

[siberian khatru]

"I'm ahead 2-0 in the count. Now's the time to really fool them!"

[petegz28]

I think it's time for Ned to have a talk with this team. Too many fucking mental mistakes. Base running errors, your cleanup hitter bunting with 2 on and 0 out in a tie game.....just fucking unacceptable baseball right now

[WilliamTheIrish]

C'mon Jepson.... Bring that playoff gopher ball with you.

[Munson]

Rios got lucky. That should've been a DP.

[petegz28]

Not only did Hosmer bunt...he bunted with Rios and Infante coming up behind him....just unbelievable

[Hootie]

Hosmer and Rios are having super great games

[C3HIEF3S]

Omar to save the day

[petegz28]

Omar with a chance to be a hero.....

[C3HIEF3S]

Omar saves the day

[Mama Hip Rockets]

I really can't fathom why Rios is playing over Dyson at this point. Dyson is a better hitter, better fielder, better baserunner...it's just mind-boggling.

[Munson]

Omar to save the day

Nice call!

[kstater]

Omar sux

[Discuss Thrower]

what is this I don't even

[petegz28]

Omar.....Omar picking up Hosmer.....yeah it's that kind of game

[cosmo20002]

I think it's time for Ned to have a talk with this team. Too many ****ing mental mistakes. Base running errors, your cleanup hitter bunting with 2 on and 0 out in a tie game.....just ****ing unacceptable baseball right now

MOAR YELLING

You weren't the one arguing the other day that he needs to "get in their face" more were you?

[petegz28]

I really can't fathom why Rios is playing over Dyson at this point. Dyson is a better hitter, better fielder, better baserunner...it's just mind-boggling.

I think you need to talk with cosmo about this....he will educate you on why

[WilliamTheIrish]

Not only did Hosmer bunt...he bunted with Rios and Infante coming up behind him....just unbelievable

Pete.

Shut up.

[kstater]

Davis warning up for 8th. Ned knows there's two games right? Can't use hdh in both

[Mama Hip Rockets]

I can't believe this lineup scored five runs. Ned is magical.

[Strongside]

OMARBI

[petegz28]

MOAR YELLING

You weren't the one arguing the other day that he needs to "get in their face" more were you?

No, was not me.

[cosmo20002]

Omar saves the day

He got jobbed on the AS vote!

[Why Not?]

That's how a true All Star snub responds baby!

[Saul Good]

MOAR YELLING

You weren't the one arguing the other day that he needs to "get in their face" more were you?

When you have a veteran team fresh off a World Series appearance and the best record in the AL coming up on the all-star break despite being bombed by injuries, your best course of action is to scream and yell...really mess with the players' comfort zones.

[petegz28]

When you have a veteran team fresh off a World Series appearance and the best record in the AL coming up on the all-star break despite being bombed by injuries, your best course of action is to scream and yell...really mess with the players' comfort zones.

If your clean up hitter bunting with 2 on and 0 outs is your "comfort zone" you got problems

[RealSNR]

Davis warning up for 8th. Ned knows there's two games right? Can't use hdh in both

He knows Volquez is going to throw a complete game!

[cosmo20002]

I think you need to talk with cosmo about this....he will educate you on why

I never said Rios should play over Dyson, you ass.
The ONLY thing I've said about Rios is that you overreacted to his getting doubled after the line drive out.

[Hootie]

I figured if we beat Moore with this lineup we'd get an easy sweep tonight

so far I have been right on about nothing today so hopefully I get this one right

[Saul Good]

Davis in the ninth as well? I would leave him in.

[petegz28]

I never said Rios should play over Dyson, you ass.
The ONLY thing I've said about Rios is that you overreacted to his getting doubled after the line drive out.

Liar. I said there was no reason for him to be on this team after the break and you said otherwise.

[suzzer99]

Next game could be a blowout either way. Use your guys when you know you need them. Unless we score 3 in the 8th, not using HDH here would be like leaving a close NFL game with timeouts in your pocket.

[Hootie]

I'd probably just burn Wade for 2 here and keep Madson/Holland for the night cap

[Saul Good]

DeJesus is rapidly approaching Royal Killer HOF status, btw.

[C3HIEF3S]

Davis needs to lock it down.

[Hootie]

guess you can't burn Wade for 2, now

might as well go Holland

and then Herrera/Madson night cap

[duncan_idaho]

I figured if we beat Moore with this lineup we'd get an easy sweep tonight

so far I have been right on about nothing today so hopefully I get this one right

Even with Archer v. Guthrie tomorrow?

[C3HIEF3S]

Never a doubt.

[C3HIEF3S]

Server infected with teh AIDS again

[Hootie]

Even with Archer v. Guthrie tomorrow?

I was talking about sweeping the doubleheader ...

I'm not naive enough to think we're going to hit Chris Archer LMAO

[Saul Good]

Even with Archer v. Guthrie tomorrow?

I have to assume he meant the sweep of the double header.

[Hootie]

I can't believe Wade bumped that last pitch up to 99

...I see no reason why Ned can't start him in the ASG and use Herrera to close. Ultimate troll move.

[petegz28]

I'd probably just burn Wade for 2 here and keep Madson/Holland for the night cap

Agreed but Ned Yost...

[cosmo20002]

It bugs me how chummy Hosmer always is with baserunners. A little chit-chat is maybe ok I guess, but it seems like he's always over there yukking it up.

THIS ISN'T SOCIAL HOUR

[Great Expectations]

Nice that Wade can bring it at 99 for the strikeout when it's absolutely necessary.

[Discuss Thrower]

Infield double.

[Fish]

Bunt double. LOL....

[RollChiefsRoll]

LOL Esky.

[suzzer99]

I :heart: our relievers so so much.

[Hootie]

Hos was trying to get a double on a bunt ... I get it now !

[KCUnited]

Yostrection

[suzzer99]

Insurance run here would be so sweet.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

"Escobar reached on bunt double to third."

can someone explain to those of us that didn't watch the play?

[RollChiefsRoll]

"Escobar reached on bunt double to third."

can someone explain to one of us that didn't watch the play?

Pitcher, catcher, and 3B all bumped into each other, Bad News Bears style. In the words of Robert Downey Jr., "never go full retard."

[C3HIEF3S]

Shut it down and get ready to take 2.

[Hootie]

"Escobar reached on bunt double to third."

can someone explain to those of us that didn't watch the play?

Pitcher dove for the ball and knocked it 20 feet into foul territory

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

thanks fellas.

[C3HIEF3S]

Oh Jesus.

[cosmo20002]

Did Rios bobble that?

[WilliamTheIrish]

I hope Wade knows he came close to 64% of blowing this game when he pitched today.

[RollChiefsRoll]

S.O.B.

[Munson]

That bitch is out!

[petegz28]

he is OUT!

[Discuss Thrower]

CHALLENGE IT

[siberian khatru]

Well then

[RollChiefsRoll]

OUTTTT

[cosmo20002]

No way that's overturned.

[C3HIEF3S]

Don't see any clear evidence.

[Saul Good]

What's happening?

[Dartgod]

Didn't we already use and lose our challenge?

Edit: Never mind. Forgot the umps can initiate one after the 7th, or something like that.

[Blankey]

I can't tell when he is actually tagging him

[petegz28]

that was a piss poor tag but he is still out

[C3HIEF3S]

Didn't we already use and lose our challenge?

This is an umpire's review.

[Fish]

Didn't we already use and lose our challenge?

Umpire review....

[KCUnited]

Can't see them overturning that.

[suzzer99]

Fuck - it's not enough to overturn. 5 minutes of crap to find that out.

[RollChiefsRoll]

COME ONNNN

[WilliamTheIrish]

Umpire review....

Safe.

[cosmo20002]

Didn't we already use and lose our challenge?

This is an "Umpire Review"

[petegz28]

with some of the plays I have seen them overturn that one is indeed one that can be overturned

[Rasputin]

Being an un-bias viewer the fucker was out with tag.

[suzzer99]

Maybe MLB has a better super-slow-mo angle or something.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I hope the Holland knows how much he puts through. (% wise of course)

[Fish]

Ump couldn't see the actual tag from that angle...

[cosmo20002]

Colon would have tagged that bitch the right way.

[alnorth]

Didn't we already use and lose our challenge?

Umpires can choose to review a play starting the 7th inning if a team is out of challenges, and they almost always will if its close and the manager asks.

Because of that, you only need to be careful about not wasting a challenge through the first 6 innings. After that, just use it for whatever is close and important.

[petegz28]

Cuthbert you have to get that tag down and hold it dude....

[Dartgod]

This is an umpire's review.

Umpire review....

This is an "Umpire Review"

Yeah, yeah, I realized my mistake as soon as I posted.

[Fish]

Maybe MLB has a better super-slow-mo angle or something.

The mythical All 18 footage...

[petegz28]

awful long time to say it stands....

[KCUnited]

Double header fellas, you know you want to call him out.

[Dartgod]

Umpires can choose to review a play starting the 7th inning if a team is out of challenges, and they almost always will if its close and the manager asks.

Because of that, you only need to be careful about not wasting a challenge through the first 6 innings. After that, just use it for whatever is close and important.

I SAID I GOT IT!!! :cuss:




Sorry. :D

[Discuss Thrower]

welp

[-King-]

Holy shit! Seriously?

[C3HIEF3S]

No surprise there.
Holland has his hands full now.

[petegz28]

wow ....

[RollChiefsRoll]

God damn it.

[suzzer99]

This takes way too long.

[Munson]

We got hosed.

[alnorth]

awful long time to say it stands....

when a review takes a while, it often is ruled as the plays stands as called, rather than confirmed or overturned.

[petegz28]

Holy shit! Seriously?

Apology will ensue in the coming days....

[siberian khatru]

I've seen the old Holland get out of jams like this. Can the "new" one?

[Strongside]

Horse shit.

[RealSNR]

Sooo... three straight K's? Too much to ask for?

[petegz28]

I'd like to know what they saw that we didn't? He clearly got the tag on his shoulder before his foot was back....again though....it was a poor tag overall

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

What's the point of having a challenge available if you can come out and ask for an umpire review?

[lcarus]

He looked so clearly out to me at 3rd base....what the hell.

[jimidollar]

Thanks Holland.

[petegz28]

I've seen the old Holland get out of jams like this. Can the "new" one?

gonna go with no....as he walks a guy...we might go from blown save to loss here real fast

[RollChiefsRoll]

WTF GREG

[suzzer99]

Half these guys have absolutely no desire to swing.

[Strongside]

Well, this is frustrating.

[petegz28]

need a K and a DP

[alnorth]

What's the point of having a challenge available if you can come out and ask for an umpire review?

The rules are set up so that we don't get lots of unnecessary challenges early on in a game that might not even end up having a close final score.

[petegz28]

we fucked ourselves in the 1st...maybe they fuck themselves in the 9th?

[-King-]

Now we need to get this double play and get out of here.

[C3HIEF3S]

need a K and a DP

Got the K

Double penetration time

[RollChiefsRoll]

ONE DOWN.

[duncan_idaho]

Don't think you could tell for sure when the tag touched him, which is why it had to stand. Sucks. He was probably out.

But still... horribly lackluster play by Rios in RF on that one. Slow to the ball and hesitated on the throw.

Rios has had the kind of horrible day that might be enough to be the final straw on an expensive and struggling one-year guy.

Baserunning mistakes: Check (doubled off on IF line drive AND made third out at 3B)
Bad plate appearances: Check (hacking early, still trying to pull everything and pulling off all pitches on the outside corner)
Bad defensive effort: Check (I know he's normally a nonchalant guy, but that Kiermeier play was pretty bad).

[RealSNR]

Strikeout the next turd and you can get the next guy out however you want to, Holland. You got this.

[Dartgod]

Ok, now a double play to end this thing.

[Strongside]

There's 1. DP ball would be super swell here Greggy.

[C3HIEF3S]

There goes that.

[Munson]

Son of a bitch.

[Three7s]

Doesn't look like Holland has his good control today. (As a slider misses 3 feet outside)

[Discuss Thrower]

Welp

[-King-]

Jesus Holland. What the fuck.

[Fish]

Oh JFC........

[RollChiefsRoll]

Unreal.

[petegz28]

Christ Holland....way to fuck yourself and everyone else

[Dartgod]

:facepalm:

[suzzer99]

FFS

[RealSNR]

Are you for fucking real, Holland? :facepalm:

[C3HIEF3S]

Have to get it together. Don't let them take a lead.

[RollChiefsRoll]

He's throwing 96...

[jimidollar]

Fuck Holland!

[-King-]

Dead silent there.

[petegz28]

holland gonna blow the game altogether

[Strongside]

That's why Salvador Perez is an all-star, right there.

[Three7s]

Yeah, Holland doesn't have it today. Not good.

[RealSNR]

Take him out, Ned. Even the best have shit days. Stop the bleeding here and at least let us try to win it in 9.

[petegz28]

dude was so out at 3rd.....

[Strongside]

Get someone warm. This is fucking stupid.

[jimidollar]

Way to give the game away, assclown!

[Fish]

dude was so out at 3rd.....

If that side-by-side replay was timed correctly, I think you're right...

[RollChiefsRoll]

He's going to walk them loaded...

[Hootie]

What a frustrating game

[suzzer99]

Man it would be nice if the umps would ever give us a close call so we didn't have to win on clear and convincing evidence.

[Three7s]

He is missing so badly on his fastball, it's getting comical.

[Hootie]

Throw a fucking strike

[Hootie]

Take him out, Ned. Even the best have shit days. Stop the bleeding here and at least let us try to win it in 9.
Retarded

[Three7s]

You couldn't have paid me to swing the bat there.

[RollChiefsRoll]

SIDDOWN.

[C3HIEF3S]

I think the gun may be a touch hot today.
If it isn't, then Holland has his velocity back.

[Dartgod]

Man it would be nice if the umps would ever give us a close call so we didn't have to win on clear and convincing evidence.

Or we could not blow a bases loaded, no out situation in the first inning.

[C3HIEF3S]

Neither team deserves this game, just sloppy all-around. LMAO
Walk it off boys.

[RollChiefsRoll]

Alright let's walk off.

[SPchief]

Just walk off now.

[Strongside]

I think the gun may be a touch hot today.
If it isn't, then Holland has his velocity back.

Too bad his command is shaky as shit.

[duncan_idaho]

I think the gun may be a touch hot today.
If it isn't, then Holland has his velocity back.

He had it over the weekend, too. Was consistently popping 95.

[suzzer99]

Ok we got this. Let's walk it off again.

[kysirsoze]

Yes, Holland struggled, but if Rios gives any effort on that triple, this game is over.

[Three7s]

Just win the game and burn the tape afterwards.

[Strongside]

How many fucking times are they going to show that Hosmer replay today. The guy has done jack shit all afternoon.

[Hootie]

Great. Hosmer and Rios. I wonder what else they have in store for us today !!

[RollChiefsRoll]

Can Kendrys play the next game drenched in Gatorade?

[mr. tegu]

Given that we used our best relievers we really need this game since they won't be available later today.

[petegz28]

Man it would be nice if the umps would ever give us a close call so we didn't have to win on clear and convincing evidence.

I think they have too many of these "call stands". Either confirm it or overturn it but this "call stands" stuff is just a cop out as it happens way to often.

Either they are trying to give the Umps some cover or this system is not working. I think everyone could see the tag on his shoulder before his foot was on the bag.

Escobar slid head 1st into 2nd and somehow they were able to deduce a crease in his pants moved as was running and sliding and said that wsa evidence of a tag but yet you see that last play and well...we can't tell

[Three7s]

Great. Hosmer and Rios. I wonder what else they have in store for us today !!
A ground-out to 2nd and a pop up to the catcher.

[duncan_idaho]

Side note:
Brad Boxberger is Cyborg worthy. Let's try not to lose our shit if he blows through the Royals lineup here.

[Hootie]

Given that we used our best relievers we really need this game since they won't be available later today.
Not necessarily. Herrera can pitch again if necessary. Probably Davis, too, but I'd be hesitant.

[Great Expectations]

Hosmer has stranded 7 and Rios has stranded 5 today.

[RollChiefsRoll]

77 to 93. Jesus.

[Strongside]

Do something Hosmer, you shit.

[ChiTown]

Hosmer grounds a single into Center. Nice

[ChiefsCountry]

Rios with the walkoff.

[C3HIEF3S]

Nice job Eric

[RollChiefsRoll]

Yezzir Hos!

[C3HIEF3S]

Rios gonna walk us off!

[Strongside]

There we go.

[RollChiefsRoll]

haha Huddy wants Paulo back.

[Great Expectations]

Also, he was out at 3rd.

[Strongside]

Rios gonna walk us off!

Yes, with an IEDP

[C3HIEF3S]

That works, Rios.

[petegz28]

Omar really has a chance to be a hero now.....can he do it twice in one game?

[ChiTown]

bloop single ...1st and 2nd 1 out. Come on..........Infante?.:doh!:

[RollChiefsRoll]

YESSS LEHHGOOO

[Munson]

Nice. I thought that was a patented Rios pop-up automatic out.

[C3HIEF3S]

INFANTE GONNA DO IT AGAIN