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Old 01-27-2005, 05:59 PM  
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Chiefs in cap trouble? $7 mil over?

is this right?

http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:26 PM   #16
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My understanding is that the estimates this early always counted the teams FA making the same money they did before. One of the reasons you just can't put any weight into it right now.
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:30 PM   #17
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Wait a sec...

Dollars weren't spent, yet we were $5M over? That makes no sense.
That should have said under. I'm a moron.

Petro was way off. I don't know where he got his numbers, but my numbers as an amateur were consistently in the 6 mill range.
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:32 PM   #18
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That should have said under. I'm a moron.

Petro was way off. I don't know where he got his numbers, but my numbers as an amateur were consistently in the 6 mill range.
Petro was not way off.

The people here crying that we had $11M under the cap were the ones who were way off.
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:33 PM   #19
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I misread what you typed about Petro. I thought you were attributing the 11 number to him.
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:35 PM   #20
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I misread what you typed about Petro. I thought you were attributing the 11 number to him.
No, Petro said at the time that we were closer to $5M under but that accelerators and incentives due some guys (he mentioned Richardson as an example, I don't know if he meant hypthetical or not) would put us closer to $1M under. And he also said that we'd be over unless some things were done with Holliday and Morton.
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:39 PM   #21
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How the F@CK to we sign no one and are still in cap hell when we should be about $8 million under. We need a new cap accountant.

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Pretty simple, because contracts are backloaded....
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:41 PM   #22
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Pretty simple, because the contracts are backloaded....
That and tiered bonuses, roster bonuses, and incentives...
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:53 PM   #23
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Wait a sec...

Dollars weren't spent, yet we were $5M over? That makes no sense.

That being said, I agree with you. People can make educated guesses. But it's also not exact, or factual. It's still a guess.

Petro said MONTHS ago when people were bitching about the mythical $11M number that we were not $11M under the cap and it was because of bonuses. People said at the time he was a liar. Turns out he was right.
you have no idea whether he was right or not


contracts and the cap change year to year ... it's not equal ... contracts are pro-rated, just he signing bonuses.


people can make educated "guesses" ... but petro can "know"
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:57 PM   #24
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you have no idea whether he was right or not


contracts and the cap change year to year ... it's not equal ... contracts are pro-rated, just he signing bonuses.


people can make educated "guesses" ... but petro can "know"
However you want to twist it.

Petro GUESSED just like everybody else.

However, his guess turned out to be accurate.
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Old 01-27-2005, 09:38 PM   #25
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I gonna have to start including “the Chiefs violated the salary cap during their super bowel win” in my sig??????
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Old 01-27-2005, 09:43 PM   #26
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However you want to twist it.

Petro GUESSED just like everybody else.

However, his guess turned out to be accurate.
im not the one twisting



you can't know what is accurate ... he could of been wrong and now things have changed.

you can't really even know that what the cap situation is now
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:36 PM   #27
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I gonna have to start including “the Chiefs violated the salary cap during their super bowel win” in my sig??????
well, the chiefs are probably not gonna get into a super bowl any time soon, so they may as well play in the super bowel, i guess...
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