Chiefs Thoughts on the Offense. - Page 4

Coogs · 11-21-2016, 11:12 AM

IMO, there has only been 1 game this season where the offense has look competent at all by NFL standards. That was the game at Oakland.
That also is the only game where we came out with the mindset that we were going to run first, and pass to compliment the run.

I know game situations dictate stats somewhat, but look at the game by game rush to pass totals:

Chargers - 19 rushes, 48 passes
Texans - 19 rushes, 37 passes
Jets - 27 rushes, 33 passes
Steelers - 18 rushes, 50 passes
Raiders - 40 rushes, 23 passes
Saints - 28 rushes, 24 passes
Colts - 27 rushes, 41 passes
Jags - 22 rushes, 33 passes
Panthers - 20 rushes, 38 passes
Buc's - 21 rushes, 31 passes

Go back to last season. Same trend.

Texans - 32 rushes, 33 passes
Bronco's - 28 rushes , 25 passes
Packers - 18 rushes, 40 passes
Bengals - 23 rushes, 45 passes
Bears - 25 rushes, 30 passes
Vikes - 18 rushes, 37 passes
Steelers - 29 rushes, 32 passes
Lions - 32 rushes, 28 passes
Bronco's - 32 rushes, 31 passes
Chargers - 31 rushes, 25 passes
Bills - 27 rushes, 30 passes
Raiders - 22 rushes, 22 passes
Chargers - 25 rushes, 23 passes
Ravens - 28 rushes, 25 passes
Browns - 27 rushes, 22 passes
Raiders - 39 rushes, 25 passes
Texans - 37 rushes, 17 passes
Pats - 32 rushes, 50 passes

We are not a passing team, yet we try to be one. Commit to the run and mix in the pass as a compliment. 60/40 ratio needs to be the goal, with 50/50 range being acceptable. We are a very good team when we do this. Not so much when we throw it 1st.

Coogs · 11-22-2016, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

There's been QBs who have won the SB with far worse stats so I don't really care what Alex Smith's stats are right now. I care about beating the Broncos.

Aaron Rodgers is on pace for 40 TDs 11 INTs but his team sucks so who really cares? You think the Packer fans are saying "hey we are losing but our QB is awesome so this season is a success!"

We have to focus on winning as a team despite any limitations our QB may have. We've got the D to make up for his short-comings and I don't believe the current slump the offense is in will last much longer. They'll break out of it soon.

I hope.

Again, the numbers from the past two seasons don't support that the offense will break out of it soon if we continue to follow the same blueprint of throwing at at 60-40 clip.

Chiefnj2 · 11-22-2016, 07:59 AM

Thoughts on the offense from someone who hasn't watched them much this year.

1. Reid still sucks in the red zone and with time management.
2. The only thing that made Smith an average QB was his ability to scramble. When he wouldn't throw to a NFL Open receiver for 10 -15 yards, he'd at least scramble the 6 yards to pick up a first down. He's not doing that this year and drives are dying.
3. Smith/Reid don't typically use the #2-4 WR's too much. With Maclin being hurt they are stuck.
4. The defense isn't as dominant as it was in past years (although it is still carrying the team) and they aren't giving the offense the fantastic field position they typically enjoy when settling for FG's.

CupidStunt · 11-22-2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

I don't even know if this is acceptable in high school...

It's like 4 games for Tom Brady.

Minus 7 of the INTs.

**MahiMike** · 11-22-2016, 09:34 AM

The defense dictates the playoffs calling. Raiders suck vs the run.

TEX · 11-22-2016, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Thoughts on the offense from someone who hasn't watched them much this year.

1. Reid still sucks in the red zone and with time management.
2. The only thing that made Smith an average QB was his ability to scramble. When he wouldn't throw to a NFL Open receiver for 10 -15 yards, he'd at least scramble the 6 yards to pick up a first down. He's not doing that this year and drives are dying.
3. Smith/Reid don't typically use the #2-4 WR's too much. With Maclin being hurt they are stuck.
4. The defense isn't as dominant as it was in past years (although it is still carrying the team) and they aren't giving the offense the fantastic field position they typically enjoy when settling for FG's.

Pretty good assessment.

Go Royals · 11-22-2016, 10:06 AM

Many people have said it before, but the offense gets better the more you take the ball out of Smiff's tiny little hands

**loochy** · 11-22-2016, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Trying to talk with bukkakebob's mouth?

Titty Meat · 11-22-2016, 11:20 AM

The offense has scored 2 or fewer TD's in 6 of the 8 games Smith has played in.

**Easy 6** · 11-22-2016, 11:36 AM

Thoughts on the offense?

I'm offended

Seriously, even with all of Reids maddening stubborness, his offenses were NEVER this awful in Philly, it begs the question... what has changed?

I know where I'm pointing the finger...

MMXcalibur · 11-22-2016, 01:01 PM

I wish our offense was better.
We would have a better team if the offense was better.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-22-2016, 02:31 PM

Maclin is reading all the inane comments on CP and wondering how people can be so damn stupid.

11-21-2016, 11:12 AM
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2255651	Thoughts on the Offense. IMO, there has only been 1 game this season where the offense has look competent at all by NFL standards. That was the game at Oakland. That also is the only game where we came out with the mindset that we were going to run first, and pass to compliment the run. I know game situations dictate stats somewhat, but look at the game by game rush to pass totals: Chargers - 19 rushes, 48 passes Texans - 19 rushes, 37 passes Jets - 27 rushes, 33 passes Steelers - 18 rushes, 50 passes Raiders - 40 rushes, 23 passes Saints - 28 rushes, 24 passes Colts - 27 rushes, 41 passes Jags - 22 rushes, 33 passes Panthers - 20 rushes, 38 passes Buc's - 21 rushes, 31 passes Go back to last season. Same trend. Texans - 32 rushes, 33 passes Bronco's - 28 rushes , 25 passes Packers - 18 rushes, 40 passes Bengals - 23 rushes, 45 passes Bears - 25 rushes, 30 passes Vikes - 18 rushes, 37 passes Steelers - 29 rushes, 32 passes Lions - 32 rushes, 28 passes Bronco's - 32 rushes, 31 passes Chargers - 31 rushes, 25 passes Bills - 27 rushes, 30 passes Raiders - 22 rushes, 22 passes Chargers - 25 rushes, 23 passes Ravens - 28 rushes, 25 passes Browns - 27 rushes, 22 passes Raiders - 39 rushes, 25 passes Texans - 37 rushes, 17 passes Pats - 32 rushes, 50 passes We are not a passing team, yet we try to be one. Commit to the run and mix in the pass as a compliment. 60/40 ratio needs to be the goal, with 50/50 range being acceptable. We are a very good team when we do this. Not so much when we throw it 1st.
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11-22-2016, 07:59 AM	#47
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	Thoughts on the offense from someone who hasn't watched them much this year. 1. Reid still sucks in the red zone and with time management. 2. The only thing that made Smith an average QB was his ability to scramble. When he wouldn't throw to a NFL Open receiver for 10 -15 yards, he'd at least scramble the 6 yards to pick up a first down. He's not doing that this year and drives are dying. 3. Smith/Reid don't typically use the #2-4 WR's too much. With Maclin being hurt they are stuck. 4. The defense isn't as dominant as it was in past years (although it is still carrying the team) and they aren't giving the offense the fantastic field position they typically enjoy when settling for FG's. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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11-22-2016, 09:34 AM	#49
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11-22-2016, 10:06 AM	#51
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11-22-2016, 11:20 AM	#53
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1172442	The offense has scored 2 or fewer TD's in 6 of the 8 games Smith has played in.
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11-22-2016, 11:36 AM	#54
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $-172225	Thoughts on the offense? I'm offended Seriously, even with all of Reids maddening stubborness, his offenses were NEVER this awful in Philly, it begs the question... what has changed? I know where I'm pointing the finger...
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11-22-2016, 01:01 PM	#55
MMXcalibur Pessimistically optimistic. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $-144914	I wish our offense was better. We would have a better team if the offense was better.
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11-22-2016, 02:31 PM	#56
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