Brian Waters?

[Reerun_KC]

[Mr. Laz]

[Reerun_KC]

is on 810 right now, just go done saying that Herm has done a incredible job as the coach of the Chiefs... Said all the players want Herm to come back and they believe what he is building here...

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

is on 810 right now, just go done saying that Herm has done a incredible job as the coach of the Chiefs... Said all the players want Herm to come back and they believe what he is building here...

says the guy who will pull a Roaf and head out the door laughing his buckets off.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

says the guy who will pull a Roaf and head out the door laughing his buckets off.

didnt he almost pull a Roaf already?

[Brock]

I remember when the players were in love with Frank Gansz.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by Brock

I remember when the players were in love with Frank Gansz.

Damn, you beat me to it.

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by Brock

I remember when the players were in love with Frank Gansz.

That's why players don't run the team. I remember when Joe Bugel was popular with the Raiders players.

The players know two things:

1) Don't throw the current coach under the bus unless you want to be labeled a malcontent by the next administration

2) The next coach will more than likely bust the players asses with hard-nosed practices and get rid of this buddy buddy soft Herm crap we've seen the last few years.

This really all depends on who the next GM is, so I wouldn't start freaking out about Herm until then. I know of very few "outside the organization" GM's who can bring a "fresh outlook" to the franchise who would want to go into a season with a head coach entering a lame duck season. Could happen, but we'll see...

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

This really all depends on who the next GM is, so I wouldn't start freaking out about Herm until then. I know of very few "outside the organization" GM's who can bring a "fresh outlook" to the franchise who would want to go into a season with a head coach entering a lame duck season. Could happen, but we'll see...

Three possibilities:

1. Herm is fired
2. Herm coaches next year as a lame duck
3. Herm receives a contract extension

Why would a new GM want #2? No new GM wants the potential for a meltdown in his first year. If next year Herm was going to be coaching without a contract, it made no sense to fire Carl. It's immediately putting the new GM in the hot seat.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Three possibilities:

1. Herm is fired
2. Herm coaches next year as a lame duck
3. Herm receives a contract extension

Why would a new GM want #2? No new GM wants the potential for a meltdown in his first year. If next year Herm was going to be coaching without a contract, it made no sense to fire Carl. It's immediately putting the new GM in the hot seat.

So many of you guys act as if Herm was given a great team to coach and he just plain ****ed up.

The bottom line is that the roster was in complete and utter shambles and while Herm obviously knew this (and went to Clark about it), Peterson just went about his business, ignoring the advice of the people that worked for him.

Now, he's out.

Believe it or not, Herm is well-respected among the coaching community and I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who's just willing to fire him without performing adequate due-diligence. And that due-diligence just might take an entire season, namely the 2009 season.

It's not as if Herm was hired to coach the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants or Carolina Panthers - teams that are loaded with talent.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Brock

I remember when the players were in love with Frank Gansz.

Which is one of the reasons you shitcan Herm. These players are too comfortable, imo. It was this way prior to Carl's arrival. When that rat Lowery and a few others went to the owner and lobbied for Mackovic to be canned because (*gasp) Gansz was going to be hired away by somebody else. "And we love him".

This franchise is so f'ed up. I can only hope and pray that Clark puts the correct people in place to build it right.

[Extra Point]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Which is one of the reasons you shitcan Herm. These players are too comfortable, imo. It was this way prior to Carl's arrival. When that rat Lowery and a few others went to the owner and lobbied for Mackovic to be canned because (*gasp) Gansz was going to be hired away by somebody else. "And we love him".

This franchise is so f'ed up. I can only hope and pray that Clark puts the correct people in place to build it right.

QFT

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

is on 810 right now, just go done saying that Herm has done a incredible job as the coach of the Chiefs... Said all the players want Herm to come back and they believe what he is building here...

We know Herm is popular with the players. Frank Ganz was really popular with the players, too.

[MikeMaslowski]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

is on 810 right now, just go done saying that Herm has done a incredible job as the coach of the Chiefs... Said all the players want Herm to come back and they believe what he is building here...

I think there is something to be said for what the players say. And Waters really has nothing to lose from being honest. WE are fans, HE is in the locker room. I hope Herm goes. But, if he stays at least the big man, who is a huge part of that locker room, can be an advocate of togetherness and the team can try to pull their heads out of their asses.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski

. WE are fans, HE is in the locker room.

Easy now. There you go making sense. This is Chiefsplanet and we will have none of that. People who spend hours on the internet know way more about football and politics than actual professionals doing their jobs.