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Old 12-18-2008, 12:20 PM   #1
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is on 810 right now, just go done saying that Herm has done a incredible job as the coach of the Chiefs... Said all the players want Herm to come back and they believe what he is building here...
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Old 12-18-2008, 12:22 PM   #2
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is on 810 right now, just go done saying that Herm has done a incredible job as the coach of the Chiefs... Said all the players want Herm to come back and they believe what he is building here...
says the guy who will pull a Roaf and head out the door laughing his buckets off.
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Old 12-18-2008, 12:25 PM   #3
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says the guy who will pull a Roaf and head out the door laughing his buckets off.
didnt he almost pull a Roaf already?
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Old 12-18-2008, 12:22 PM   #4
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I remember when the players were in love with Frank Gansz.
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Old 12-18-2008, 12:24 PM   #5
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I remember when the players were in love with Frank Gansz.
Damn, you beat me to it.
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Old 12-18-2008, 03:58 PM   #6
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I remember when the players were in love with Frank Gansz.
That's why players don't run the team. I remember when Joe Bugel was popular with the Raiders players.

The players know two things:

1) Don't throw the current coach under the bus unless you want to be labeled a malcontent by the next administration

2) The next coach will more than likely bust the players asses with hard-nosed practices and get rid of this buddy buddy soft Herm crap we've seen the last few years.

This really all depends on who the next GM is, so I wouldn't start freaking out about Herm until then. I know of very few "outside the organization" GM's who can bring a "fresh outlook" to the franchise who would want to go into a season with a head coach entering a lame duck season. Could happen, but we'll see...
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:28 PM   #7
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This really all depends on who the next GM is, so I wouldn't start freaking out about Herm until then. I know of very few "outside the organization" GM's who can bring a "fresh outlook" to the franchise who would want to go into a season with a head coach entering a lame duck season. Could happen, but we'll see...
Three possibilities:

1. Herm is fired
2. Herm coaches next year as a lame duck
3. Herm receives a contract extension

Why would a new GM want #2? No new GM wants the potential for a meltdown in his first year. If next year Herm was going to be coaching without a contract, it made no sense to fire Carl. It's immediately putting the new GM in the hot seat.
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:38 PM   #8
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Three possibilities:

1. Herm is fired
2. Herm coaches next year as a lame duck
3. Herm receives a contract extension

Why would a new GM want #2? No new GM wants the potential for a meltdown in his first year. If next year Herm was going to be coaching without a contract, it made no sense to fire Carl. It's immediately putting the new GM in the hot seat.
So many of you guys act as if Herm was given a great team to coach and he just plain ****ed up.

The bottom line is that the roster was in complete and utter shambles and while Herm obviously knew this (and went to Clark about it), Peterson just went about his business, ignoring the advice of the people that worked for him.

Now, he's out.

Believe it or not, Herm is well-respected among the coaching community and I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who's just willing to fire him without performing adequate due-diligence. And that due-diligence just might take an entire season, namely the 2009 season.

It's not as if Herm was hired to coach the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants or Carolina Panthers - teams that are loaded with talent.
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:42 PM   #9
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So many of you guys act as if Herm was given a great team to coach and he just plain ****ed up.

The bottom line is that the roster was in complete and utter shambles and while Herm obviously knew this (and went to Clark about it), Peterson just went about his business, ignoring the advice of the people that worked for him.

Now, he's out.

Believe it or not, Herm is well-respected among the coaching community and I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who's just willing to fire him without performing adequate due-diligence. And that due-diligence just might take an entire season, namely the 2009 season.

It's not as if Herm was hired to coach the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants or Carolina Panthers - teams that are loaded with talent.
That's what I'm thinking as well...
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:45 PM   #10
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So many of you guys act as if Herm was given a great team to coach and he just plain ****ed up.

The bottom line is that the roster was in complete and utter shambles and while Herm obviously knew this (and went to Clark about it), Peterson just went about his business, ignoring the advice of the people that worked for him.

Now, he's out.

Believe it or not, Herm is well-respected among the coaching community and I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who's just willing to fire him without performing adequate due-diligence. And that due-diligence just might take an entire season, namely the 2009 season.

It's not as if Herm was hired to coach the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants or Carolina Panthers - teams that are loaded with talent.
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:46 PM   #11
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So many of you guys act as if Herm was given a great team to coach and he just plain ****ed up.

The bottom line is that the roster was in complete and utter shambles and while Herm obviously knew this (and went to Clark about it), Peterson just went about his business, ignoring the advice of the people that worked for him.

Now, he's out.

Believe it or not, Herm is well-respected among the coaching community and I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who's just willing to fire him without performing adequate due-diligence. And that due-diligence just might take an entire season, namely the 2009 season.

It's not as if Herm was hired to coach the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants or Carolina Panthers - teams that are loaded with talent.
Without getting into the merits of whether Herm is a good coach or not, it puts the new GM in a tough, tough spot. These guys want to hit the ground running. They have a model for success, and have a short list of coaches that they want to team with.
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:50 PM   #12
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So many of you guys act as if Herm was given a great team to coach and he just plain ****ed up.

The bottom line is that the roster was in complete and utter shambles and while Herm obviously knew this (and went to Clark about it), Peterson just went about his business, ignoring the advice of the people that worked for him.

Now, he's out.

Believe it or not, Herm is well-respected among the coaching community and I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who's just willing to fire him without performing adequate due-diligence. And that due-diligence just might take an entire season, namely the 2009 season.

It's not as if Herm was hired to coach the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants or Carolina Panthers - teams that are loaded with talent.


Question:

Should winning be important to a team that is rebuilding?
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:54 PM   #13
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I hope everyones answer to this YES..... for everyone that wants us to lose .... eff Off
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:57 PM   #14
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How many fourth quarters do you need to come up with an answer?
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It absolutely should be important.

This is a production-based business.

6 wins in 30 games is down right sickening.
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