Chiefs 2-3 Jet Chip Wasp...Explanation ?

DTVietnam · 05-03-2020, 07:26 AM

Might be a dumb question but I cant seem to figure out what the 2-3 or 2-3-5 mean in 2-3 Jet Chip Wasp?. .

or it is called just 3 jet Y Wasp Funnel?

any playbook guys get it?

rabblerouser · 05-03-2020, 08:03 AM

"2-3" is a 6 man slide protection call, "chip" tells the back and TE to chip block, and WASP is like, a concept, a 5 step drop with a shuffle or two, depending. Y is the Y receiver doing the deep post corner with the outside receiver running an in-route. I guess it "funnels" a zone defense? It sure took SF out of their cleats...

chinaski · 05-03-2020, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

"2-3" is a 6 man slide protection call, "chip" tells the back and TE to chip block, and WASP is like, a concept, a 5 step drop with a shuffle or two, depending. Y is the Y receiver doing the deep post corner with the outside receiver running an in-route. I guess it "funnels" a zone defense? It sure took SF out of their cleats...

Tyreek's cut to the outside confused the hell out of them!

rabblerouser · 05-03-2020, 08:22 AM

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Tyreek's cut to the outside confused the hell out of them!

Funny, the same route concept got Tyreek his only catch in the 2018 AFC Championship Game. That play wasn't a chip, it was Play Action and blocked a bit better, but the exact same route concept with the Jet WASP Y Funnel, so they got Belichick with it, too. The one who sucks the penis.

DTVietnam · 05-03-2020, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chinaski

Tyreek's cut to the outside confused the hell out of them!

Fred Warner told the saftey stay in the middle right before the play. . then seeing Tyreek running full speed he had no choice..that deep sideline wasnt even his responsibilty. .

i think this was just a perfect example of the Chiefs adjusting their calls while the 49ers stayed in that same cover 3 on big passing downs. . and never adjusted

still cant believe how it unfolded...getting the previous play overturned actually gave us the time to make that call..and the fact that Mahomes called the play is unreal. .

DTVietnam · 05-03-2020, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

"2-3" is a 6 man slide protection call, "chip" tells the back and TE to chip block, and WASP is like, a concept, a 5 step drop with a shuffle or two, depending. Y is the Y receiver doing the deep post corner with the outside receiver running an in-route. I guess it "funnels" a zone defense? It sure took SF out of their cleats...

thanks..think i got it..I obviously got the chip, Y, and wasp part. . was just confused on the 2-3 . .

2-3 basically is just the orders to the O-Line on which way to slide when they block. . and the back is supposed to pick up the DE or LB if it comes and chip him before going. .

rabblerouser · 05-03-2020, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam

thanks..think i got it..I obviously got the chip, Y, and wasp part. . was just confused on the 2-3 . .

2-3 basically is just the orders to the O-Line on which way to slide when they block. . and the back is supposed to pick up the stunt or LB if it comes and chip him before going. .

Right, but Damian kind of whiffed on his chip on Bosa

ChiefsFanatic · 05-04-2020, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

"2-3" is a 6 man slide protection call, "chip" tells the back and TE to chip block, and WASP is like, a concept, a 5 step drop with a shuffle or two, depending. Y is the Y receiver doing the deep post corner with the outside receiver running an in-route. I guess it "funnels" a zone defense? It sure took SF out of their cleats...

I think the funnel part is telling the other receivers that they should not adjust their routes because they are funneling the defense away from the Y receiver.

Usually, the receivers would go through their route tree based on the defense, and adjust their routes, but this play needed the other receivers to run their base routes.

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**Bowser** · 05-03-2020, 09:57 AM

This is the best explanation of that play I've seen -

DTVietnam · 05-03-2020, 10:05 AM

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This is the best explanation of that play I've seen -

yep..this and the HB and Frank Clark Mic'd up are 2 of the best videos ever in the history of videos

"Any down and distance...I dont care"

he literally dropped back 14 yrds from the line of scrimmage to throw that 57 yards in the air

RINGLEADER · 05-03-2020, 10:13 AM

Chris Simms also had a pretty good breakdown of the play that got into how the play worked because a) that route just shouldn’t work and with a lesser QB it wouldn’t and b) he dissected how the play used the 49er scheme against itself and once Tyreek left the safety’s zone he got handed off but was then able to cut back into the same space. It’s a pretty detailed breakdown that gets into some different things than the turning point video. Will try to find it.

**Donger** · 05-03-2020, 10:26 AM

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Chris Simms also had a pretty good breakdown of the play that got into how the play worked because a) that route just shouldn’t work and with a lesser QB it wouldn’t and b) he dissected how the play used the 49er scheme against itself and once Tyreek left the safety’s zone he got handed off but was then able to cut back into the same space. It’s a pretty detailed breakdown that gets into some different things than the turning point video. Will try to find it.

This? I watched it a few days ago:

JakeF · 05-06-2020, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

This? I watched it a few days ago:

Most of our QBs(Smith,Cassel,Huard,Green, even Montana) would have thrown it to Damien Williams underneath. Then it's touch and go about whether we get the 1st down or not.

Mahomes is a stud.

KChiefs1 · 05-04-2020, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Chris Simms also had a pretty good breakdown of the play that got into how the play worked because a) that route just shouldn’t work and with a lesser QB it wouldn’t and b) he dissected how the play used the 49er scheme against itself and once Tyreek left the safety’s zone he got handed off but was then able to cut back into the same space. It’s a pretty detailed breakdown that gets into some different things than the turning point video. Will try to find it.

https://youtu.be/_60VptuDrCw

suzzer99 · 05-03-2020, 10:54 AM

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yep..this and the HB and Frank Clark Mic'd up are 2 of the best videos ever in the history of videos

"Any down and distance...I dont care"

he literally dropped back 14 yrds from the line of scrimmage to throw that 57 yards in the air

How ****ing cool is that our basically 2nd year QB, in the biggest game of his life, while still struggling and trying to pull out of arguably two worst quarters of football he's played as a Chief - has the presence of mind to basically be the coach and call the absolute perfect ballsy play?

And not only that - to continually coach Watkins and Hill in the huddle to run it a certain way. And then to drift back way farther than the play called for, because he knew he had to, and still execute perfectly - releasing the ball like 1/10th of a second before getting hit?

That is GOAT legendary stuff they'll be talking about forever.

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