Chiefs Orlando Brown Jr signs with Bengals - Page 21

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-15-2023, 08:19 PM

Sources: Four-time Pro Bowl tackle and Super Bowl champ Orlando Brown Jr. is finalizing a four-year, $64.092 million front-loaded deal with the #Bengals that includes an over $31M signing bonus — largest ever for an o-lineman.

Brown’s agent, Michael Portner, confirmed the deal. pic.twitter.com/GFFZX0zLrs
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 16, 2023

Sassy Squatch · 03-16-2023, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yup.

Even the 'anyone but OBJ!' crowd would've been throwing up banners for baller ass Brett veach bending over the noob Agent and getting a pro bowl LT to return for less than X is paying for some RT convert with one good season in Taylor.

Objectively this is a really nice get for Cincy. He's a clear upgrade for them on a middle class LT price tag.

This entire affair leaves a pretty shitty taste in my mouth to be honest.

Perhaps, but it would only be because we were all ignorant to what his actual market value in the NFL was, which we learned yesterday. It's not like he left money from other organizations on the table to sign with the Bengals as a **** you to the Chiefs. They offered him the most guaranteed over the longest period. He just isn't nearly as highly regarded as some thought.

AdolfOliverBush · 03-16-2023, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

CupidStunt want to explain how 16 mil per is a bad deal for a top 10 LT you stupid ****

Brown isn't a top 10 LT. If anything, Brown was lucky to get as much as he did from the Bengals. Even that was an overpay IMO. Burrow's broken femur will agree with me.

JPH83 · 03-16-2023, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Perhaps, but it would only be because we were all ignorant to what his actual market value in the NFL was, which we learned yesterday. It's not like he left money from other organizations on the table to sign with the Bengals as a **** you to the Chiefs. They offered him the most guaranteed over the longest period. He just isn't nearly as highly regarded as some thought.

The annoying aspect is apparently Brown and his s****y agent were most ignorant of his value, right up until the BENGALS offered it. Fine, whatever, but I repeat - f**k the Bengals and f**k Brown's dumbass agent. Looking forward to drafting a speed rusher...

tredadda · 03-16-2023, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

If the Bengals signed Taylor for 20 mil and the Chiefs resigned Brown for 16 mil you wouldn't be saying this and the board would be laughing at the Bengals for paying Taylor so much

There was zero chance KC was ever going to sign Brown for that. They offered more last year and he said no. They most likely offered something similar again and he said no again. KC let him walk and test the market where he realized he wasn't worth what he thought he was. KC had already moved on so Brown wasn't coming back, plus his pride would probably not allow it.

He signed with Cincinnati because either it was the best he could get, or it was close enough and he wanted to stick it to KC.

Titty Meat · 03-16-2023, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

Brown isn't a top 10 LT. If anything, Brown was lucky to get as much as he did from the Bengals. Even that was an overpay IMO. Burrow's broken femur will agree with me.

Stick to DC bro

kccrow · 03-16-2023, 08:57 AM

Are we seriously worried about the Bengals signing this trash? Seriously?

OBj sucks dick. As mobile as Burrow is and as much as the Bengals throw the ball, I'd put the O/U on sacks given up at 12.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-16-2023, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

I don't really see how it helps them too much. I don't think a combo of Brown/Williams is really any better than Williams/Collins would have been.

People seem to forget Brown has been horrible much of the last two seasons and was constantly bailed out by Mahomes being a wizard and Andy scheming around his flaws. He will not have that benefit with Burrow.

This signing is a wash for them at best. Brown is simply not good and never will be at LT. He'll be average at best and get his ass kicked at worst on any given day.

I’m not a fan of the guy talent-wise but for a team that cant afford a premium left tackle but desperately needs an OL, it isn’t the worst thing to get a halfway decent (even if not great) LT for way less.

Redbled · 03-16-2023, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

Sheesh. Someone or something got under Orlando's skin.

IM A 4x PRO BOWL SUPER BOWL CHAMPION LEFT TACKLE….put it on a ****ing TShirt!! — Orlando Brown Jr. (@ZEUS__57) March 16, 2023

Most great players don’t talk like that. Guy is so insecure.

tredadda · 03-16-2023, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yup.

Again - first guy to build the Taylor bandwagon and yes I absolutely believe he can be a premier pass blocking LT.

But if the situation were reversed there's no question how this would be viewed.

(But watch Taylor's feet and you'll feel a little better. Man he has nice balance. Those little steps he takes to keep himself centered and remain 'athletic' are so very nice; he might be a damn good one...)

I still believe that Taylor will surprise people. I just don't see KC doing this unless there was belief that he could play the position as well or better than Brown Jr. If Reid did not believe this, KC probably resigns Brown Jr or looks to move up in the draft for a LT. They don't pay Taylor $20 mil a year.

Sassy Squatch · 03-16-2023, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Redbled

Most great players don’t talk like that. Guy is so insecure.

Well, yeah, he just spent the past few days getting beat over the head repeatedly with the fact that he's not considered an elite LT like he and his agent thought.

Skyy God · 03-16-2023, 09:05 AM

Negotiating with irrational people is incredibly hard.

Clearly that’s what Veach and and Chiefs were facing.

Sassy Squatch · 03-16-2023, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

Negotiating with irrational people is incredibly hard.

Clearly that’s what Veach and and Chiefs were facing.

To be a fly on the wall in those negotiations. I've never seen the Chiefs organization make it that obvious they were so sour after the fact.

tredadda · 03-16-2023, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

Negotiating with irrational people is incredibly hard.

Clearly that’s what Veach and and Chiefs were facing.

Yup. Once Veach removed the tag the bridge was burned with no going back. Brown Jr. found out that he wasn't worth what he thought, and no way Veach was going to offer the original contract again.

JohnnyHammersticks · 03-16-2023, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

If my choices are Taylor for $20 million or Brown for $16, I'm taking Taylor every single time without question.

We know what Brown is, and he hinders this offense big time. Taylor has a higher ceiling and is a drastically better fit here. This all worked out for the best.

Burrow is going to get destroyed. Keep in mind Brown has only ever played LT (or RT for that matter) for Jackson and Mahomes, two of the most athletic and mobile QBs in history. It's going to be really bad for them.

Good post. Exactly the way I see this entire situation.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-16-2023, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

Good post. Exactly the way I see this entire situation.

I’m good with Taylor over brown. I don’t love that he went to cincy knowing he went there for pretty cheap

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