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Old 03-15-2023, 08:19 PM  
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Orlando Brown Jr signs with Bengals

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Old 03-16-2023, 08:27 AM   #286
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Old 03-16-2023, 08:28 AM   #287
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If he doesn't fire his agent then either he's really dumb or extremely ignorant of how business in the NFL works.
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Old 03-16-2023, 08:29 AM   #288
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Burrow took the Bengals a long way with a mediocre-at-best offensive line.

Brown upgrades one of those positions to average, which will be good for Burrow.
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Old 03-16-2023, 08:29 AM   #289
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Folks keep parroting this but it simply isn't true. He got paid fair market value as determined by the NFL. Had at the very least 4 teams making offers on the first day of free agency and he signed the best one. It was a fair deal for both sides. Not a discount.
I wasn't a OBJ fan but this is the type of money that we would have been happy to sign him to the past year +. Bengals won because he and his agent have no idea what they're doing and Veach probably got tired of dealing with them.
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Old 03-16-2023, 08:30 AM   #290
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Be honest. If he came back at this deal for us we’d all be a lot more forgiving of his flaws.

All these FA’s always get overpaid. It was a great deal for them. They didn’t overpay.
Literally said that. They got a fair deal on a middle tier LT.
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Old 03-16-2023, 08:31 AM   #291
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Good riddance. We'll have an actual athlete starting at LT for the first time since Eric Fisher's injury.
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Old 03-16-2023, 08:32 AM   #292
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Yup.

Even the 'anyone but OBJ!' crowd would've been throwing up banners for baller ass Brett veach bending over the noob Agent and getting a pro bowl LT to return for less than X is paying for some RT convert with one good season in Taylor.

Objectively this is a really nice get for Cincy. He's a clear upgrade for them on a middle class LT price tag.

This entire affair leaves a pretty shitty taste in my mouth to be honest.
My take exactly as I've posted. I don't know if there's anyting Veach or the Chiefs could've done, but it pisses me off he's gone to Cincy at a decent rate. F**k his agent.
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If he doesn't fire his agent then either he's really dumb or extremely ignorant of how business in the NFL works.
We KNOW he's the latter.

"I don't want my agent to have any experience..." pretty much gave that away.

Guess what, Orlando - experience would've given your boy some people to talk to and tell him "hey, you aren't gonna get what you want here..." and sign that 2022 offer from Veach.

OBJ did essentially everything wrong.
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CupidStunt want to explain how 16 mil per is a bad deal for a top 10 LT you stupid ****
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If my choices are Taylor for $20 million or Brown for $16, I'm taking Taylor every single time without question.

We know what Brown is, and he hinders this offense big time. Taylor has a higher ceiling and is a drastically better fit here. This all worked out for the best.

Burrow is going to get destroyed. Keep in mind Brown has only ever played LT (or RT for that matter) for Jackson and Mahomes, two of the most athletic and mobile QBs in history. It's going to be really bad for them.
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If my choices are Taylor for $20 million or Brown for $16, I'm taking Taylor every single time without question.

We know what Brown is, and he hinders this offense big time. Taylor has a higher ceiling and is a drastically better fit here. This all worked out for the best.

Burrow is going to get destroyed. Keep in mind Brown has only ever played LT (or RT for that matter) for Jackson and Mahomes, two of the most athletic and mobile QBs in history. It's going to be really bad for them.
Seriously. Just one season with an actual competent coach and he's already bordering elite status as a pass blocker.
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If my choices are Taylor for $20 million or Brown for $16, I'm taking Taylor every single time without question.

We know what Brown is, and he hinders this offense big time. Taylor has a higher ceiling and is a drastically better fit here. This all worked out for the best.

Burrow is going to get destroyed. Keep in mind Brown has only ever played LT (or RT for that matter) for Jackson and Mahomes, two of the most athletic and mobile QBs in history. It's going to be really bad for them.
If the Bengals signed Taylor for 20 mil and the Chiefs resigned Brown for 16 mil you wouldn't be saying this and the board would be laughing at the Bengals for paying Taylor so much
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Old 03-16-2023, 08:42 AM   #298
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I don't get it. If the reports are true that he turned down 6/$123M last year, then how does he sign so quickly for $16M/ year in free agency? Surely the reports last year were wrong and the Chiefs never offered close to that, right? And if OBJ could only get $16M per year, I feel like Veach has to have overpaid for Taylor at $20M per year. He's always played right tackle. I don't see what he's done to be paid elite LT money. Elite RT money, sure. But that's more what OBJ got that what he got.
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If the Bengals signed Taylor for 20 mil and the Chiefs resigned Brown for 16 mil you wouldn't be saying this and the board would be laughing at the Bengals for paying Taylor so much
Yup.

Again - first guy to build the Taylor bandwagon and yes I absolutely believe he can be a premier pass blocking LT.

But if the situation were reversed there's no question how this would be viewed.

(But watch Taylor's feet and you'll feel a little better. Man he has nice balance. Those little steps he takes to keep himself centered and remain 'athletic' are so very nice; he might be a damn good one...)
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If the Bengals signed Taylor for 20 mil and the Chiefs resigned Brown for 16 mil you wouldn't be saying this and the board would be laughing at the Bengals for paying Taylor so much
Nope, I didn't want OBJ back for any number. I was never a fan of the trade and never a fan of him.

I do think we slightly overpaid for Taylor, but when you're dealing with Rosenhaus that's usually going to be the case. If he turns into a top 10 LT like I expect him to (which Brown is not as his market just proved) then the deal will end up being a bargain.
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