14 of 23 for 85 ****ing yards?

[Hammock Parties]

Are we playing it close to the vest or are we going to keep Cassel on the NFL's shortest leash all season long?

I sincerely hope it's the former, because the latter will be a bunch of bullshit.

[ArrowheadMagic]

Originally Posted by Cool han Luke

I'm not slinging any shit. It's 20 years of Carl Petersoness. It's wanting to draft a QB ever since Joe Montana failed to deliver a Super Bowl. It's seeing the same back up QB from Patriots that we had in Huard that turned into a pile of crap. I don't see any thing special about Cassel, so yes I am going to complain. It has nothing to do with you or any other Cassel supporter. I want to see him do something that would warrent a 2nd round pick & 60 Mill contract. I know he is our QB this year and I would love for him to go out on Monday night against the Chargers and throw 375yds 5 TDs that would be awsome, then he would be the man. Untill the next week that is if he tanks.

LOL. I am not a Cassel supporter. I know what he is capable of physically and yes he is way over paid. But its not my money..... I am not that wrapped up in what his money is. But Berry might never be worth his guaranteed contract. What safety is?

I question why we dont have someone behind him him making us ready to walk away from his friendly to walk away after this year contract.

[Marcus_Halberstram]

Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

LOL. I am not a Cassel supporter. I know what he is capable of physically and yes he is way over paid. But its not my money..... I am not that wrapped up in what his money is. But Berry might never be worth his guaranteed contract. What safety is?

I question why we dont have someone behind him him making us ready to walk away from his friendly to walk away after this year contract.

Just cool it with the anti-Cassel remarks.

[Rasputin]

To be honest, I'm very disapointed in Brodie Croyle. I had no expectations of Cassel doing any thing for us. I expected Brodie to take over during pre season barring injury. Well the little panzy got hurt again & I was hoping he would suck it up and play. So far I am still holding out somewhat hope that he does well enough against the Rams, to show he is still viable back up and if he gets another shot down the road fine. It was up to Brodie to prove himself for the job. There is no excuse for either QB not to perform well this year they both have been in the league long enough.

I liked Brodie when he played for Alabama and was happy we drafted him. It's unfortunate he had the injuries to derail his career. Regardless of how Cassel plays this year and the number of wins we get. I want us too draft a QB for our future needs. Grooming our own QB from the draft will pay off divadends for successfull seasons. Scott Pioli talked about that with Lenny & Mitch on the radio about developing our own players. I think that is a plan for the next comming year. I'm still going to bitch untill they actually do it.

[ArrowheadMagic]

Originally Posted by Marcus_Halberstram

Just cool it with the anti-Cassel remarks.

Your right.... lol..... I wont make the eleventy billion more threads about his play...this week... I'm done.

[Marcus_Halberstram]

Originally Posted by Cool han Luke

To be honest, I'm very disapointed in Brodie Croyle. I had no expectations of Cassel doing any thing for us. I expected Brodie to take over during pre season barring injury. Well the little panzy got hurt again & I was hoping he would suck it up and play. So far I am still holding out somewhat hope that he does well enough against the Rams, to show he is still viable back up and if he gets another shot down the road fine. It was up to Brodie to prove himself for the job. There is no excuse for either QB not to perform well this year they both have been in the league long enough.

I liked Brodie when he played for Alabama and was happy we drafted him. It's unfortunate he had the injuries to derail his career. Regardless of how Cassel plays this year and the number of wins we get. I want us too draft a QB for our future needs. Grooming our own QB from the draft will pay off divadends for successfull seasons. Scott Pioli talked about that with Lenny & Mitch on the radio about developing our own players. I think that is a plan for the next comming year. I'm still going to bitch untill they actually do it.

You know cool han, you should take some more lithium. Or perhaps a Diet Coke, that'll get you out this slump

[Marcus_Halberstram]

Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

Your right.... lol..... I wont make the eleventy billion more threads about his play...this week... I'm done.

I know my behavior can be... erratic sometimes.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Marcus_Halberstram

You know cool han, you should take some more lithium. Or perhaps a Diet Coke, that'll get you out this slump

I'm not in any slup. I'm happy today. Other than last years picks & not getting a QB from the draft two years. I am stoked for having Berry & Dexter on this team. It was right to get those guys & I can see what Pioli and Haley are trying to do with this team. It's just going to be a shot in the arm with Cassel but no worries here. I can see alot of good in this team particularly with the young guys stepping up, like Berry Richardson and Studebaker. We got the makings of a good team. My expectations are the same. Get better and don't let the other teams push us around. Turn the corner and start being the AFCW bullies. I'm looking for progression this year win, lose or draw. We don't have to win every game but damnet the other team should hurt and wish they didn't come to Arrowhead.

[Marcus_Halberstram]

Originally Posted by Cool han Luke

I'm not in any slup. I'm happy today. Other than last years picks & not getting a QB from the draft two years. I am stoked for having Berry & Dexter on this team. It was right to get those guys & I can see what Pioli and Haley are trying to do with this team. It's just going to be a shot in the arm with Cassel but no worries here. I can see alot of good in this team particularly with the young guys stepping up, like Berry Richardson and Studebaker. We got the makings of a good team. My expectations are the same. Get better and don't let the other teams push us around. Turn the corner and start being the AFCW bullies. I'm looking for progression this year win, lose or draw. We don't have to win every game but damnet the other team should hurt and wish they didn't come to Arrowhead.

I'm 100% with you.

Where do you tan?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Actually, he doesn't.

He's "good enough" to get a team to the playoffs.

Therein lies the greatest fear of Chiefs fans.

Actually, he isn't good enough to get a team to the playoffs.

A good team might get him to the playoffs, but it's more likely he'll keep a good team from getting there.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by milkman

Actually, he isn't good enough to get a team to the playoffs.

A good team might get him to the playoffs, but it's more likely he'll keep a good team from getting there.

& Chiefs fans complain, becouse Chiefs fans complain, about Cassel not being good enough to go to the play offs.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Coach,

You make it sound so black and white....when there is a big grey area.

You make it seem as simple as 1+1 that Cassel is a failure when he has had only one season and really not even a full season. I agree there are Cassel ball washers who would support him NO MATTER WHAT.

But there are also the opposite kinds of people...People that give up WAY TOO EARLY. People that are WAY TOO negative without giving Cassel at least 8 more games or this season to have a real chance....

So yes there are supporters (ball washers) and yes there are the bashers/haters...But there are also a big group in the middle who would like to at least give the man a CHANCE. Last year was NOT a chance....

If someone is unwilling to give a GM / QB more than one season to turn things from the WORST in history to a good team...Then Personally you are just as bad as any of the ball washers IMO.

While he was here in KC for one season, he did play in NE for a season, if I am not mistaken, and numberous of posters here, before and during the 2009 season pointed out the flaws that Cassel had during his time in NE, and that has carried over here to KC. Namely the issue here is that he holds on to the ball too long/unaware of his surroundings that he takes unacceptable sacks.

Last year, he was given a chance, especially at a stage where the offensive line play was actually better during the end of the season, and that Charles became a legitimate playmaker that the Chiefs needed in a bad way. The first half of the 2009 season, I gave him several passes due to the fact that our offensive line play was a big steaming pile of shit, and Larry Johnson's infamous 2.7 YPC, and the receivers was also full of steaming pile of shit as well.

Now when the offensive line play was improved at the end of the season, awful as it may seem, just barely passable, plus with the addition of Charles of having a legitimate threat to score whenever he touches the ball, you'd think with those two improvements, the QB play should have improved, other than having a steaming pile of shit receiving corps. Unfortunately, with the improvement of offensive line play and the addition of Charles, Cassel's play actually was worse.

On Oct 26 in 2009, is the date that Larry Johnson's twitter incident came into light. That set the motions of him getting suspended and having his ass cut, which prompted Charles into the starting role in November. Before Charles, the Chiefs total rushing, as a team, before Week 10 (since there are 16 games, split it to 2 8 games), was 788 yards on 208 attempts, which translate into a 3.8 YPC.

During that first 8 games, Cassel's numbers was 125 completions, 225 attempts (55.6 comp. %) for 1256 yards. 5.58 YPC, 10 TD's, 5 INT's with a QB rating of 77.2. Given the situation and offensive line play, along with Larry Johnson not contributing to anything, it's "passable" considering the situation(s) involved.

Now, the last 8 games of the season, as a team, from Week 10 to 17, the Chiefs total rushing, as a team, was 219 attempts for 1148 yards, a 5.2 YPC. Some of this can be contributed to Charles, but also better line play as well.

During that last 8 games, Cassel's numbers was 146 completions, 268 attempts (54.5 comp. %) for 1668 yards. 6.22 YPC, 6 TD's, 11 INT's with a QB rating of 63.8. That is unacceptable due to the fact that the offensive line play gotten better and having Charles being involved.

His numbers did not improve, which it SHOULD have when the line play was better and Charles was doing something that Larry Johnson couldn't do. Cassel's play DID not improve, in fact, it actually regressed worse than his first 8 games. Had his numbers stayed the same or shown SOME improvement, he wouldn't have this much criticism on the board.

And finally, as far as the GM is concerned, the first year during his watch was an abortion of all ages. Drafting Tyson Jackson? Ouch, that's going to hurt this franchise more than it's going to do good. McGee? Brutal. It's really sad that the only person that actually had more value than he was slotted in his pick was Succop. Giving Cassel that big contract, even though he was under KC's control for the next two years during that time, if I am not mistaken. And finally, it was really sad just to have the twitter incident was probably the final straw that had to make him get rid of him. I would have gotten rid of LJ by week 4/5 since it was apparent he was done. But the Chiefs had to drag it out till Week 9, unfortunately.

The second year, the jury is still out on that, but, it has shown some promise. This year's draft picks may (or may not, depending on who you speak to) be one of the good draft picks KC had in some time. Berry, that's obvious. McCluster, I liked the pick. Arenas, I also liked the pick. We all saw what he's capable of doing on special teams, and I think he'll develop into a nice fine nickel corner. Kendrick Lewis is looking like a good pick, based of his play on pre-season. Again, I know it's early, but in my opinion, it is favorable so far. Still does not take out the sting of drafting Jackson though.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Cassel needs to grow a pair

Of boobies.

FAX

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by FAX

Of boobies.

FAX

This.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

It will be interesting to see how many people backtrack when he has a half decent-looking statistical year because we do nothing but throw 5 yard passes and play one of, if not the easiest, schedules in NFL history.

There is a legitimate chance that Cleveland, Denver, Jacksonville, Oakland, Buffalo, St. Louis, Seattle, and Arizona all pick in the top 10 next year. That's 10 games, and all of those teams have horrible, horrible defenses, save Oakland.

[michaelj_58]

he could have lobbed that ball over the top,bowe was coming uncovered 15 yards down field.he is always throwing fastballs.