Religion in Kc/football/sports/

[Ralphy Boy]

The Sheffield injury was awful, but I thought it was very cool to see the players go out on the field in prayer. In our culture and media today we seldom see religious expression and I was rather proud to see my favorite team, in a sport I love so much, do this.

I couldn't help but wonder if an injury occured on a movie set whether the cast and crew would have done the same.

Very happy to see that he is alright.

[Saulbadguy]

It was sickening. Absolutely disgusting.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Nice debut.



I understand skepticism. I really do. Nor can I explain how it works. But there are enough stories of miracles and healings to say that it isn't valid or that God doesn't intervene in life.

Yea, you know people have been studying this for awhile and ...

Several studies of prayer effectiveness have yielded null results.[4] A 2001 double-blind study of the Mayo Clinic found no significant difference in the recovery rates between people who were (unbeknownst to them) assigned to a group that prayed for them and those who were not.[69] Similarly, the MANTRA study conducted by Duke University found no differences in outcome of cardiac procedures as a result of prayer.[70] In another similar study published in the American Heart Journal in 2006,[71] Christian intercessory prayer when reading a scripted prayer was found to have no effect on the recovery of heart surgery patients; however, the study found patients who had knowledge of receiving prayer had slightly higher instances of complications than those who did not know if they were being prayed for or those who did not receive prayer.[5][72] Another 2006 study suggested that prayer actually had a significant negative effect on the recovery of cardiac bypass patients, resulting in more frequent deaths and slower recovery time for those patient who received prayers.[73]

[sedated]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I understand skepticism. I really do. Nor can I explain how it works. But there are enough stories of miracles and healings to say that it isn't valid or that God doesn't intervene in life.

"Miracles" are just another way of explaining the unexplained. People centuries ago had no idea how the sun rose in the morning and set at night, so they simply said "its a miracle" and that was that.

Personally, I don't rely on an invisible man/superhero/ghost/god to come and save me.

[KC native]

hehe I see miracles in every way and ****ing magnets how do they work?

[KC native]

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

I couldn't help but wonder if an injury occured on a movie set whether the cast and crew would have done the same.

I'm guessing it is more a show of respect and hope for recovery than believing in a particular religion. I'm a through and through Atheist, but if I was on the sideline, I would have gotten in the "prayer" huddle, simply because my hatred for religion does not overwhelm my respect for that person and the wish that he isn't hurt badly.

[WilliamTheIrish]

If praying really worked, we'd have two HoF type QB's on this roster. If all we get out of these prayers is the good health of Cam Sheffield then God hath layed the smite to our franchise.

[RealSNR]

I do know that Colquitt and Succop both love Jesus a lot.

So... prayer works in the kicking game maybe?

[CaliforniaChief]

I find some of the responses to the idea that prayer might actually work to be interesting.

People call Christians intolerant, ignorant, or closed-minded. And yet many who would use that label on Christians immediately close off to the idea that anything we believe is true.

I'm not the type who runs around preaching at people and being hyper-spiritual about life. But I also see a wealth of evidence of God's presence and power. So when I hear that Cameron Sheffield is working out at Arrowhead today, I personally believe God had something to do with that. Now, why he walks and other guys like Utley never do, I honestly don't know.

I'm just not quick to dismiss it.

[Hammock Parties]

Religious expression in sports makes me want to shoot an automatic weapon into a crowd.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I find some of the responses to the idea that prayer might actually work to be interesting.

People call Christians intolerant, ignorant, or closed-minded. And yet many who would use that label on Christians immediately close off to the idea that anything we believe is true.

I'm not the type who runs around preaching at people and being hyper-spiritual about life. But I also see a wealth of evidence of God's presence and power. So when I hear that Cameron Sheffield is working out at Arrowhead today, I personally believe God had something to do with that. Now, why he walks and other guys like Utley never do, I honestly don't know.

I'm just not quick to dismiss it.

[Pioli Zombie]

Dave Lane is an asshole, so sayeth the Lord! - The Message Bible

[CaliforniaChief]

I feel really bad about the kinds of people who some of you must have come into contact with representing the church or Christianity. They really must have left a bad taste in your mouths.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I feel really bad about the kinds of people who some of you must have come into contact with representing the church or Christianity. They really must have left a bad taste in your mouths.

I'll never forgive Kurt Warner.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

They really must have left a bad taste in your mouths.

That's just too easy.