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Old 08-29-2010, 03:39 PM  
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The Sheffield injury was awful, but I thought it was very cool to see the players go out on the field in prayer. In our culture and media today we seldom see religious expression and I was rather proud to see my favorite team, in a sport I love so much, do this.

I couldn't help but wonder if an injury occured on a movie set whether the cast and crew would have done the same.

Very happy to see that he is alright.
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:43 PM   #2
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it was very nice to see indeed. I said a prayer myself and our prayers were answered because he got out of the hospital with no life changing injuries, which was the most important thing.
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:45 PM   #3
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The Sheffield injury was awful, but I thought it was very cool to see the players go out on the field in prayer. In our culture and media today we seldom see religious expression and I was rather proud to see my favorite team, in a sport I love so much, do this.

I couldn't help but wonder if an injury occured on a movie set whether the cast and crew would have done the same.

Very happy to see that he is alright.
I thought it was a nice gesture of respect. Obviously there is zero value in the actual prayer mechanism, but it was a nice show of respect for a fallen brother.
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:47 PM   #4
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I thought it was a nice gesture of respect. Obviously there is zero value in the actual prayer mechanism, but it was a nice show of respect for a fallen brother.
Obviously?
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:49 PM   #5
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Obviously?
Yeah, I had the same thought as you. Certainly there's room for diverse opinions, but to say that prayer doesn't work or have an effect on circumstances is a bit narrow-minded, IMO.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:02 PM   #6
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Here we go again I don't know which are growing more tiresome, the obvious DC-baiting threads or the equally predictable responses
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:05 PM   #7
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I thought it was a nice gesture of respect. Obviously there is zero value in the actual prayer mechanism, but it was a nice show of respect for a fallen brother.
damn you, beat me to it.

Also, there is plenty of display of religion in public life. I don't know where you've been.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:15 PM   #8
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I couldn't help but wonder if an injury occured on a movie set whether the cast and crew would have done the same.
Nope....religion doesnt exist in any profession outside of sports.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:16 PM   #9
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Yeah, I had the same thought as you. Certainly there's room for diverse opinions, but to say that prayer doesn't work or have an effect on circumstances is a bit narrow-minded, IMO.
How do you figure prayer works? If 300,000,000 catholics pray for the pope to get better and he dies, how do you figure it functions in anyway other than psychologically?
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:17 PM   #10
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It is interesting that you would ask this, I was wondering the same thing. The entire team in 2 games now have had the auto-prayer button on after injuries. Lead by Wheaton College grad Studebaker.

It brings up a chicken and the egg question... with the retooling of the they seem to be trying to get a new caliber of player starting with high character players (Jones, Vrabel, 5 team captains in the draft or whatever).

So, were they looking for more religious people as well, because they thought it equated with higher character? Or did that happen to get more religious players because they were looking for those with character (whatever the heck that means)?
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:17 PM   #11
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:20 PM   #12
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:22 PM   #13
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Being an atheist, I don't personally have any use for religion or prayer and so on, but I thought it was a good way for players in what's ultimately a helpless situation to express their care and support for a fallen teammate. Nothing at all wrong with it, I'd say. I think if I was on the team, I'd have knelt with the rest of them, as a silent show of respect and unity.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:22 PM   #14
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How do you figure prayer works? If 300,000,000 catholics pray for the pope to get better and he dies, how do you figure it functions in anyway other than psychologically?
I understand skepticism. I really do. Nor can I explain how it works. But there are enough stories of miracles and healings to say that it isn't valid or that God doesn't intervene in life.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:25 PM   #15
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Nice debut.



I understand skepticism. I really do. Nor can I explain how it works. But there are enough stories of miracles and healings to say that it isn't valid or that God doesn't intervene in life.
If you believe in God, then miracles happen because that's part of God's plan.

When the pope dies in spite of the prayers of millions, that is also a part of God's plan.

If you don't believe in God, then shit happens.
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