What would you do ?

[ROYC75]

Let me back it up here, I've always suspected that the backside of neighbors house had a sewer line or even the main sewer line coming across into my lateral line. Years ago, they allowed landowners with multiple houses together to share the same lateral line. Now I have the proof, his line does tie into mine, matter of fact, it's right up under the deck of my house.

Backing up to 3 years ago, I had to replace about 80% of my lateral line from the bottom of my circle drive to the main city sewer line. That cost me $ 7500.00 and I didn't replace it all because I didn't want to dig up my blacktop drive at the time.


My neighbor has turned into a childish dick ever since his dog followed my dog back to our property and our other dog killed it. To add insult to injury, he slipped on the wet grass and broke his collar bone.

So my question is, do I make him pony up $3750.00 or have him put in his own sewer line, approx. 130 feet ? I would be willing to bet that 130 feet will cost him at least $10K to put in !

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Wow, this place never fails to amaze me. Let me see if I can clear some of the nonsense up here?

We have a perimeter fence around our property. Our Lab didn't have his collar on and wandered across the property line. So, by the time I had walked down to the end of the driveway (at the edge of the house to see what was going on), he was 15 feet across the property line doing what dogs do, licking and sniffing each other's ass's. I commanded him to come back across to my side, as he came back, the neighbor's pain in the ass Yorkie decided to follow him. Having artificial knees, I could not run to the property line fast enough to stop what was about to happen next. My grandson's Pit was there with his shock collar on, as soon as their dog entered 6' inside of our property, it was too late. It had been raining some prior to this time and the neighbor slipped as he tried to run downhill to catch his dog before crossing. He slipped and did a Charlie Brown flop on his back, landing in a way to break his collar bone. I got citated for not having my Lab on a leach, yet he was not citated for the same thing. But he took all of this personal, took the time to give the grandkids a hard time. Telling them, I'm going to kill all of your dogs. Even making threats towards the kid's friends. I had to call the police on him several times about it and even spoke to the Co. Attorney about his threats, causing fear within them. Even after I apologized to him the next day, expressing my sorrow for his dog and his personal injury that was sustained on his property turned into an ass. Nothing worked, he kept on starring at us as we took our pets out on a leash, video us, making threats, playing loud music all day (which I didn't care, we like the same music) even after hours outside. He even started playing the same song all day long, for 16 hrs out of the day! Sad part is, we always got along up to this point, I used to mow his yard for him. He retired as a prison guard, was having some medical issues and a couple of weeks prior to this dog incident, he apologized for being a " asshole " about treat us and anybody around us. I told him then not to think twice about it, that I knew something was up with his demeanor. But this incident flipped him out, he put No Trespassing signs on the trees, paid for a survey crew to mark his property and has put up a fence between us, all within his rights. Please keep in mind, this whole time he had acted like an ass (over medication & emotional duress) I never engaged in his comments and told the kids to not comment. (This attitude of his has gone on for 5 months now and I'm about to send it into orbit).

Keep in mind when we both bought our houses, me in 1998 and he in 2010 , we were not aware of the current sewer line issues or how it was installed back in the 1930's.

Which brings us to date, he dug up a section of my yard to cut into a sewer tile that runs under my deck, to get to my sewer line. (FYI, there is only 10-12 feet between our houses) This line connects between my house and a clean out trap I had installed about 6' from my house. So his line is within 2, maybe 3 feet off the corner of my house! Then it runs about 60' out to the end of my driveway where we put in a cleanout trap and the new line starts, 90' to the city sewer main.

Years ago back in the 30's when both of these houses were built, the same guy that owned the old tobacco warehouse across the street had our houses built to help house the people that worked there (plus the many more on this street). They were boarding houses back in the day, reason they were built side by side, so close on the same sewer line. Building codes were so much different then than now and all of this old tile is giving way! I feel it's just a matter of time before the section between what we did and the house gives in under my blacktop drive.

I need to do something about this scenario with a 1-time, somewhat friend that has turned into a dickhead over pets!

Since I have not approached him yet, I'm leaning towards just letting him put his own line in. But I was wondering if there was another option here for him, cuz we are going to have to revisit this sewer line again. So I was thinking about getting him to own up to 50% of the maintenance is only fair.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Do people actually believe this? I mean, yeah, some pits are bred to fight but I don't believe they are genetically inclined for this behavior.

They are clearly genetically inclined to it. Pits have a history of specifically being selected and bred for their aggression and size. This isn’t even debatable. The biggest issue is due to random breeding and most pits people buy or adopt not having an established history you don’t know which ones are more predisposed than others. Hence the wide variation. But then there’s also this with their behavior that is probably a factor in almost all negative interactions with them.

Finally, most dogs warn you before they attack, growling or barking to tell you how angry they are—”so they don’t have to fight,” ASPCA advisor and animal geneticist Stephen Zawistowski stresses. Not the pit bull, which attacks without warning. Most dogs, too, will bow to signal that they want to frolic. Again, not the pit bull, which may follow an apparently playful bow with a lethal assault.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Balto

Another question,

Anyway to show that he was aware of the shared line before your repair 3 years ago?

Also, anyway a professional could examine the lines and state that with his line cutting into yours it put extra unnecessary stress/damage on them from TWO house holds waste that was never meant for just a single line? Could be grounds for Civil action to bring up to your attorney.

If civil action needs to take place on this, one would think it would be against the previous owners who did not disclose this.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Lzen

If civil action needs to take place on this, one would think it would be against the previous owners who did not disclose this.

Good luck bloodletting that stone.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Skyy God

Good luck bloodletting that stone.

You'd have better luck pulling an infant from a shitbull's jaws.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Option A:
Hey neighbor. When you had work done on your sewer line, I realized that it had been run in a completely weird way and runs into my line. I didn't think anything of it at first, but I was talking to a friend of mine who is a real estate agent, and he was really worried about that for both our sake. We now have to disclose that if we ever go to sell our houses, and that's the kind of thing that will scare a lot of buyers off. I also have some work that still needs to be done on the line we apparently share, and while I'd generally be open to sharing the costs, it's just not a viable long-term solution. It's not a huge rush, but my lawyer tells me that the only real way around this is to separate our lines and have you run your own. I know that sucks, so I'm OK if it takes a while, but we really need to get this done in the next year. I'm happy to refer you to my guy if you need it.

Option B:
You have 30 days to get this fixed or I'm capping it off. Also, **** your dog.

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I'm not saying my version of Option A is perfect, but OP seems intent on going in guns blazing when he doesn't actually even know what the situation is. If you've consulted with a lawyer who can figure out what the actual options are and found that the only way out of it is by separating the lines, it is what it is. But there's zero reason to just drop this on someone when there's absolutely no rush on this at all. People usually don't have $10k just lying around, and forcing someone to come up with it out of nowhere like that is, again, and epically dickish move.

This.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Womble

Does your dog also go on the internet to lie about taking his imaginary girlfriend on holiday to Belize then?

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Pablo

I really think a lot of posters here and in the general public, view people that own pitbulls as dipshits by default. It's indicative of poor decision making and that pretty much bleeds over to every other aspect of your life. A lot easier to pile on if you start with that base.

Oh, I get it. I just think that mindset is dumb....and wrong. And just to be clear, part of the reason for my comments in this thread are from my own experiences. My oldest son, who is doing well in life, has a pit that they rescued several years ago. She is a sweetie. She gets along with all 3 of my boxers as well as one of my other son's dogs. The one dog she doesn't get along with is my other son's dog, some large terrier breed. But it is the other dog that always starts a fight with her.

[Skyy God]

Thought you were meeting with a lawyer last week, Roy.

Not go the way you hoped??

[Skyy God]

Far better “what would you do”.

https://youtu.be/kjrUOlK2714

[Dunerdr]

TL;DR

Two chicks at the same time

[TribalElder]

https://www.kctv5.com/2023/11/14/plu...otty-her-yard/

Spoiler!

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (KCTV) - A Kansas City homeowner now has a porta potty outside of her suburban home because she’s having such a tough time getting repairs.

She blames her neighbor.

It’s a complicated project involving aging water lines and zero help from the city or water department because the pipes in question run through her neighbor’s yard, which is private property.

“It is humiliating and sad. I own a home and I’m not able to utilize it... and it’s upsetting,” said Leiana Victor.

Aging clay pipes now have roots growing through them and piping needs to be replaced. The home has already had a sewage backup and plumbers warn sewage pipes could collapse with any strong gush of water.

Leianna provided text messages. Interestingly enough, her neighbors Bob and Jane Bromberg shared the exact same messages with KCTV5.

reminded me of this thread, this your neighbor ROYC

[Skyy God]

I can sympathize with the collapsed old clay line problem.

My kitchen sink was inoperable for a good long time because I procrastinated having it fixed. Housekeeper got tired of hand washing my dishes in the bathroom sink, so the gf took over.

Line was fixed yesterday. Wasn’t super expensive, just a complicated project requiring a smart plumber. Dishwasher is ****ed, but I wanted a new one anyway and BF is next week.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

https://www.kctv5.com/2023/11/14/plu...otty-her-yard/

Spoiler!

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (KCTV) - A Kansas City homeowner now has a porta potty outside of her suburban home because she’s having such a tough time getting repairs.

She blames her neighbor.

It’s a complicated project involving aging water lines and zero help from the city or water department because the pipes in question run through her neighbor’s yard, which is private property.

“It is humiliating and sad. I own a home and I’m not able to utilize it... and it’s upsetting,” said Leiana Victor.

Aging clay pipes now have roots growing through them and piping needs to be replaced. The home has already had a sewage backup and plumbers warn sewage pipes could collapse with any strong gush of water.

Leianna provided text messages. Interestingly enough, her neighbors Bob and Jane Bromberg shared the exact same messages with KCTV5.

reminded me of this thread, this your neighbor ROYC

But that neighborhood is also the type with no curbs.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by lewdog

But that neighborhood is also the type with no curbs.

Probs roving gangs of pits too.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

https://www.kctv5.com/2023/11/14/plu...otty-her-yard/

Spoiler!

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (KCTV) - A Kansas City homeowner now has a porta potty outside of her suburban home because she’s having such a tough time getting repairs.

She blames her neighbor.

It’s a complicated project involving aging water lines and zero help from the city or water department because the pipes in question run through her neighbor’s yard, which is private property.

“It is humiliating and sad. I own a home and I’m not able to utilize it... and it’s upsetting,” said Leiana Victor.

Aging clay pipes now have roots growing through them and piping needs to be replaced. The home has already had a sewage backup and plumbers warn sewage pipes could collapse with any strong gush of water.

Leianna provided text messages. Interestingly enough, her neighbors Bob and Jane Bromberg shared the exact same messages with KCTV5.

reminded me of this thread, this your neighbor ROYC

Playing the media card on your neighbors when said neighbor knows you absolutely have to use a portable shitter out in your yard is a very bad idea.