What would you do ?

[ROYC75]

Let me back it up here, I've always suspected that the backside of neighbors house had a sewer line or even the main sewer line coming across into my lateral line. Years ago, they allowed landowners with multiple houses together to share the same lateral line. Now I have the proof, his line does tie into mine, matter of fact, it's right up under the deck of my house.

Backing up to 3 years ago, I had to replace about 80% of my lateral line from the bottom of my circle drive to the main city sewer line. That cost me $ 7500.00 and I didn't replace it all because I didn't want to dig up my blacktop drive at the time.


My neighbor has turned into a childish dick ever since his dog followed my dog back to our property and our other dog killed it. To add insult to injury, he slipped on the wet grass and broke his collar bone.

So my question is, do I make him pony up $3750.00 or have him put in his own sewer line, approx. 130 feet ? I would be willing to bet that 130 feet will cost him at least $10K to put in !

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Wow, this place never fails to amaze me. Let me see if I can clear some of the nonsense up here?

We have a perimeter fence around our property. Our Lab didn't have his collar on and wandered across the property line. So, by the time I had walked down to the end of the driveway (at the edge of the house to see what was going on), he was 15 feet across the property line doing what dogs do, licking and sniffing each other's ass's. I commanded him to come back across to my side, as he came back, the neighbor's pain in the ass Yorkie decided to follow him. Having artificial knees, I could not run to the property line fast enough to stop what was about to happen next. My grandson's Pit was there with his shock collar on, as soon as their dog entered 6' inside of our property, it was too late. It had been raining some prior to this time and the neighbor slipped as he tried to run downhill to catch his dog before crossing. He slipped and did a Charlie Brown flop on his back, landing in a way to break his collar bone. I got citated for not having my Lab on a leach, yet he was not citated for the same thing. But he took all of this personal, took the time to give the grandkids a hard time. Telling them, I'm going to kill all of your dogs. Even making threats towards the kid's friends. I had to call the police on him several times about it and even spoke to the Co. Attorney about his threats, causing fear within them. Even after I apologized to him the next day, expressing my sorrow for his dog and his personal injury that was sustained on his property turned into an ass. Nothing worked, he kept on starring at us as we took our pets out on a leash, video us, making threats, playing loud music all day (which I didn't care, we like the same music) even after hours outside. He even started playing the same song all day long, for 16 hrs out of the day! Sad part is, we always got along up to this point, I used to mow his yard for him. He retired as a prison guard, was having some medical issues and a couple of weeks prior to this dog incident, he apologized for being a " asshole " about treat us and anybody around us. I told him then not to think twice about it, that I knew something was up with his demeanor. But this incident flipped him out, he put No Trespassing signs on the trees, paid for a survey crew to mark his property and has put up a fence between us, all within his rights. Please keep in mind, this whole time he had acted like an ass (over medication & emotional duress) I never engaged in his comments and told the kids to not comment. (This attitude of his has gone on for 5 months now and I'm about to send it into orbit).

Keep in mind when we both bought our houses, me in 1998 and he in 2010 , we were not aware of the current sewer line issues or how it was installed back in the 1930's.

Which brings us to date, he dug up a section of my yard to cut into a sewer tile that runs under my deck, to get to my sewer line. (FYI, there is only 10-12 feet between our houses) This line connects between my house and a clean out trap I had installed about 6' from my house. So his line is within 2, maybe 3 feet off the corner of my house! Then it runs about 60' out to the end of my driveway where we put in a cleanout trap and the new line starts, 90' to the city sewer main.

Years ago back in the 30's when both of these houses were built, the same guy that owned the old tobacco warehouse across the street had our houses built to help house the people that worked there (plus the many more on this street). They were boarding houses back in the day, reason they were built side by side, so close on the same sewer line. Building codes were so much different then than now and all of this old tile is giving way! I feel it's just a matter of time before the section between what we did and the house gives in under my blacktop drive.

I need to do something about this scenario with a 1-time, somewhat friend that has turned into a dickhead over pets!

Since I have not approached him yet, I'm leaning towards just letting him put his own line in. But I was wondering if there was another option here for him, cuz we are going to have to revisit this sewer line again. So I was thinking about getting him to own up to 50% of the maintenance is only fair.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Womble

Does your dog also go on the internet to lie about taking his imaginary girlfriend on holiday to Belize then?

Who are you??

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by Skyy God

Who are you??

Lmao pretty embarrassing that guys you don’t even know are dunking on you

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Lmao pretty embarrassing that guys you don’t even know are dunking on you

I find it ****ing hilarious whenever that rfaulk guy does it... dude's here to trash talk about the Bengals and Chiefs, but will stand beside us to roast our clowns.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Nothing worked, he kept on starring at us as we took our pets out on a leash, video us, making threats, playing loud music all day (which I didn't care, we like the same music) even after hours outside. He even started playing the same song all day long, for 16 hrs out of the day! Sad part is, we always got along up to this point, I used to mow his yard for him.....But this incident flipped him out, he put No Trespassing signs on the trees, paid for a survey crew to mark his property and has put up a fence between us, all within his rights.

Is your neighbor Clay? Sounds like Clay.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Lmao pretty embarrassing that guys you don’t even know are dunking on you

When are we meeting in Temacula, cupcake??

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by Skyy God

When are we meeting in Temacula, cupcake??

I don’t know what the **** Temacula is. Is that Dracula’s older brother?

[Peter Gibbons]

Have we signed this pipe of shit yet?

[Iowanian]

Here’s what you have to do Roy….

Wait until his old lady is out back in a bikini. Call her out to the yard, when that pit bull notices that Wookiee fro in her short pants, bark from the side of your mouth and turn that pit loose on that panty Yorker.

Boom. Now we are ready to discuss it a resolution.


Better yet, commission III to save the family honor and put a baby in her back porch pipe.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

People tend to buy a certain type of dog because it offers something. Non shedding, lap dog, hunting dog, etc. What does a pit bull offer that you can’t get in another dog without the desire and capability to murder anything that crosses its path?

Do people actually believe this? I mean, yeah, some pits are bred to fight but I don't believe they are genetically inclined for this behavior. The problem, in my view, is that pits are just one of the most powerful breeds and have the capability to kill another dog moreso than other breeds. But I've also seen plenty of those yipper dogs that are the root cause of the issue but the pit gets blamed for it. I have know pitts that I would not trust around other pets. I have also known pits that are good dogs around other pets.

I remember a buddy had a couple of German Shepherds that murdered the neighbor's cat. Well, I guess if your cat (or dog) is roaming off your property, that is the chance you take.

Another story I remember that happened I think near Manhattan, KS about 25 years ago. This couple had 3 rotweilers and they got free and killed a kid waiting on a bus. Again, powerful breeds like that are capable of killing other pets or even humans. But most (99%) of the time, it's the fault of the owner.

And sometimes, like what is being described in this story, it is partly the fault of the other dog owner. I think people with yippers allow bad behavior simply because they are small dogs. But that behavior should never be allowed. And this time, unfortunately for everyone, that caused the dog to get killed.

[KCUnited]

This sounds like the screenplay for John Wick 5

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

A couple of dogs roaming free doesn't sound like much of an issue in normal circumstances. Smelling a few bushes and peeing on mailboxes isn't going to hurt anything.

Can it be annoying? Yes but that's an issue that's easily fixable.

What isn't fixable is when a bad dog owner lets their lunatic dog out of the house and it kills one of those other dogs.

Honestly OP should have his sewer line taken away as punishment and be forced to use an outhouse.

Sounds like the lunatic dog you speak of did not leave the property. It was his other dog that left the property. Look, I'm not letting Roy off the hook for his dog roaming around. But I don't see why anyone else in this thread thinks that yipper dog going into Roy's grandson's dog's territory is not at least partly at fault. You all don't know that dog would never leave its own property. And I'll bet it has done that before.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

I've already mentioned his dog was a frequent visitor in my yard! .....

But Roy, how can we have a pile on if we don't ignore substantial facts of the situation.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Not sure I've seen one comment where someone is unhappy with the outcome of what actually happened.

Dude's dog died, you got fined, dude has a new fence, you fixed something on your property 3 years ago.... everyone except you is 'happy' with that. The only shitty part is the guy acting like a teenage girl with the music and comments and so forth.

The only person who can't be pleased in this thread seems to be you, wanting your neighbor fined for the leash law thing and pay $3750 for something he had zero knowledge of 3 years ago.... it really just makes you sound as petty as he does.

For the record, I don't agree with Roy's stance on the sewer line. And I think they probably did the right thing in not fining the neighboy even though he was technically liable for his dog roaming. I think his dog getting killed was probably enough of a fine.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by ghak99

I'm not sure you're right about this.

They're still trend very terrier based genetically and the behavioral issues are quite similar. Alert, chase, grab, kill. We just tend to over look them because of size. If we magically made all Yorkshire Terriors the size of a pit we'd get to watch a hilarious transition within the public's perception of the evil little devils.

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[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Lzen

But Roy, how can we have a pile on if we don't ignore substantial facts of the situation.

I really think a lot of posters here and in the general public, view people that own pitbulls as dipshits by default. It's indicative of poor decision making and that pretty much bleeds over to every other aspect of your life. A lot easier to pile on if you start with that base.