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Old 01-16-2009, 01:49 PM  
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And speaking of good career moves, Matt Cassel soon will leave New England, and it’s safe to say no athlete ever has left this region on better terms. Once the Patriots place the franchise tag on Cassel, the bidding officially will begin and the help the Patriots defense desperately needs will be on the way. No reason to think the Pats won’t parlay a backup quarterback into a starting corner and safety and maybe more.

Of course, a deal already could be in place. The Kansas City Chiefs, who have the third and 35th pick in April’s draft, really could use a quarterback. We hear Belichick has a good relationship with the Chiefs’ new general manager. It could be a win-win for both guys. Just like the old days.

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Old 01-16-2009, 02:24 PM   #31
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I fail to understand why anyone would advocate using a 1st and 2nd round pick to draft a QB who has one year starting experience, and who will turn 27 over the summer - when you can use that 1st or 2nd round pick alone and draft a guy that is only 21 or 22 years old, and has one less year of NFL experience.
Don't forget those young guys also have A LOT more talent.
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Old 01-16-2009, 02:24 PM   #32
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I fail to understand why anyone would advocate using a 1st and 2nd round pick to draft a QB who has one year starting experience, and who will turn 27 over the summer - when you can use that 1st or 2nd round pick alone and draft a guy that is only 21 or 22 years old, and has one less year of NFL experience.
Because it seems safer for some damn reason.
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Old 01-16-2009, 02:33 PM   #33
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LJ and a 3rd rounder for cassel.
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Old 01-16-2009, 02:43 PM   #34
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If we trade a high pick for Cassell, I'm going to start calling for Pioli to be fired.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:06 PM   #35
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LJ and a 3rd rounder for cassel.
Did you just smoke some?
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:07 PM   #36
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Dude, I could take any 7th rounder, give him a good OL and two of the top receivers in a game and say go out there and look good for a year.

Cassel could be this year's Derrick Anderson. There is NO WAY IN HELL you trade your first and second rounders for him...
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:08 PM   #37
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LJ and a 3rd rounder for cassel.
Do you really think we'll have to give them that much to take him?







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Old 01-16-2009, 03:09 PM   #38
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I'm sorry, but you would have to be the dumbest mother ****er alive or a Patriots fan to think Cassel is worth our first and second round pick.
Yep ---maybe a 3rd at most but if you don't ask you won't get.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:22 PM   #39
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Dude, I could take any 7th rounder, give him a good OL and two of the top receivers in a game and say go out there and look good for a year.

Cassel could be this year's Derrick Anderson. There is NO WAY IN HELL you trade your first and second rounders for him...
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Agreed. Don't be surprised of Tony Gonzalez is a Pat next year as part of trade for Cassel.
Nope. No more stupid at One Arrowhead Drive. Try Denver.

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I'm sorry, but you would have to be the dumbest mother ****er alive or a Patriots fan to think Cassel is worth our first and second round pick.
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I fail to understand why anyone would advocate using a 1st and 2nd round pick to draft a QB who has one year starting experience, and who will turn 27 over the summer - when you can use that 1st or 2nd round pick alone and draft a guy that is only 21 or 22 years old, and has one less year of NFL experience.
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Don't forget those young guys also have A LOT more talent.
Don't waste time with logic, it just sounds like refrigerator hum to these clowns.

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Old 01-16-2009, 03:24 PM   #40
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Uh huh, yep, these.



Nope. No more stupid at One Arrowhead Drive. Try Denver.



Or a member of the ass clown brigade at Chiefs Planet.




Many a head-first fall from the high chair, that's why.



Don't waste time with logic, it just sounds like refrigerator hum to these clowns.



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Old 01-16-2009, 03:31 PM   #41
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The one thing Thigpen has is mobility. With our O-line, even with the improvement, you'd better have mobility or you'll be trading draft picks away for a corpse to be named later. If you need the marquee franchise QB, you draft Sanchez or Stafford and keep building the line. At this stage in our development as a team, you don't give up picks, you get more of them.

Besides, from what I'm hearing (ok, it was one radio interview with Bob Ryan in Boston), the Pats may still need Cassel. Brady's knee might not be ready until October. Don't think that The Hoodie is going to give up September's schedule without one of those two guys in pen.

Speaking of mobility, Sanchez seems to throw very well on the run and isn't afraid to run. Unlike Thigpen, though...he actually seems to want to try and wing it down the field and not give up on the play so quickly. I like that. Despite what Petty Carroll says.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:37 PM   #42
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Unless he's coming from the 49ers we shouldn't do it.

Oh wait, that rule's done now.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:40 PM   #43
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Unless he's coming from the 49ers we shouldn't do it.

Oh wait, that rule's done now.
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised to see the 49'ers as one of the teams we could trade picks with. I'm pretty sure that if we don't grab Sanchez/Stafford (assuming the Lions don't draft a wide receiver), whoever else wants the remaining player is going to want to get in front of Seattle. Why not a division rival?

I'd love to move down to 10 and scoop up a boatload of picks.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:41 PM   #44
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The one thing Thigpen has is mobility. With our O-line, even with the improvement, you'd better have mobility or you'll be trading draft picks away for a corpse to be named later. If you need the marquee franchise QB, you draft Sanchez or Stafford and keep building the line. At this stage in our development as a team, you don't give up picks, you get more of them.

Besides, from what I'm hearing (ok, it was one radio interview with Bob Ryan in Boston), the Pats may still need Cassel. Brady's knee might not be ready until October. Don't think that The Hoodie is going to give up September's schedule without one of those two guys in pen.

Speaking of mobility, Sanchez seems to throw very well on the run and isn't afraid to run. Unlike Thigpen, though...he actually seems to want to try and wing it down the field and not give up on the play so quickly. I like that. Despite what Petty Carroll says.
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Seriously, your assessment is correct, and I'll only add that Mark knows how to find an opening and gain yardage on foot like Thigpen, but he's faster than Thigpen.

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Old 01-16-2009, 04:02 PM   #45
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If Pioli sees him as a franchise QB to build around for the next 10 yrs then I say go get him.
Yeah me too. But I sure hope they trade for him without giving up that hard earned #3 overall.
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