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Old 11-07-2009, 06:55 PM   #1
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Question from O-line experts on the board:

Can Waters be turned into a Center and thrive?
Honestly i think Water's problem might stem from motivation.

i wonder whether he really gives a shit whether Cassel gets smashed or not.
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Old 11-07-2009, 06:59 PM   #2
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Honestly i think Water's problem might stem from motivation.

i wonder whether he really gives a shit whether Cassel gets smashed or not.
I disagree.

Waters has clearly lost a step, and isn't as physical as he was just three years ago.

His skills have simply dimininshed due to age, and by next season, or the season after, he will be a shell of his former self, much as Mike Goff is right now.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:02 PM   #3
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I disagree.

Waters has clearly lost a step, and isn't as physical as he was just three years ago.

His skills have simply dimininshed due to age, and by next season, or the season after, he will be a shell of his former self, much as Mike Goff is right now.
I agree, though I think Laz makes a good point.

Remember last year, when the QB would get sacked for holding the ball too long, or generally doing something stupid?

Waters would get visibly pissed. Everyone in the stadium and watching on TV knew he was pissed at the QB, or at one of his fellow OL.

Haven't seen that once this year.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:04 PM   #4
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I agree, though I think Laz makes a good point.

Remember last year, when the QB would get sacked for holding the ball too long, or generally doing something stupid?

Waters would get visibly pissed. Everyone in the stadium and watching on TV knew he was pissed at the QB, or at one of his fellow OL.

Haven't seen that once this year.
He doesn't need to yell now, the head coach does so much of it yelling is probably ignored.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:04 PM   #5
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He doesn't need to yell now, the head coach does so much of it yelling is probably ignored.
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:14 PM   #6
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He doesn't need to yell now, the head coach does so much of it yelling is probably ignored.
OMG Could you possibly cry more about Haley yelling?
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:07 PM   #7
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I agree, though I think Laz makes a good point.

Remember last year, when the QB would get sacked for holding the ball too long, or generally doing something stupid?

Waters would get visibly pissed. Everyone in the stadium and watching on TV knew he was pissed at the QB, or at one of his fellow OL.

Haven't seen that once this year.
The problem is that he's every bit as guilty as the rest of the scrubs on this line for it's woes nw, so he's showing a little bit of wisdom.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:11 PM   #8
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The problem is that he's every bit as guilty as the rest of the scrubs on this line for it's woes nw, so he's showing a little bit of wisdom.
Can't argue that.
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