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Old 12-06-2011, 11:07 AM   #1
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If Haley said that the Orton thing was a one play deal, then I agree with chiefscountry, he was lying to protect Palko.



Why else would he say that he has to be careful about what he says other than to protect Palko?
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Exactly. Especially since we ended up winning.
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:33 AM   #2
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Gaither and Richardson both suck. No great loss cutting Gaither. And Richardson probably won't be a Chief next year.
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Old 12-06-2011, 03:09 PM   #3
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:05 PM   #4
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yeah, why cant we draft a RT in the 2nd round? or just sign one. there are always something you can do to upgrade the position.

NUMBER 1 concern QB. We all have known that for years. lol
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:12 PM   #5
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IMO you don't need a star at RT, just a solid guy.


It appears the Chiefs definition of solid and mine are a little different however.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:20 PM   #6
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Dunno where or when I heard this but it makes sense.

To win a Superbowl you need 3-4 things. Franchise qb, Franchise LT, Elite Pass Rusher, opportunistic defense.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:22 PM   #7
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Dunno where or when I heard this but it makes sense.

To win a Superbowl you need 3-4 things. Franchise qb, Franchise LT, Elite Pass Rusher, opportunistic defense.
Franchise LT isn't one of them.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:29 PM   #8
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Franchise LT isn't one of them.
Tell that to Jared Gaither, who just intercepted Palko... again.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:25 PM   #9
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Dunno where or when I heard this but it makes sense.

To win a Superbowl you need 3-4 things. Franchise qb, Franchise LT, Elite Pass Rusher, opportunistic defense.
If I'm got a for sure 1st thing mentioned, I'd like to have a second thing mentioned or pretty close to it.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:53 PM   #10
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Old 12-07-2011, 08:08 AM   #11
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Don't know if anyone posted this yet but here ya go...



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After being cut in a fit of anger by Kansas City following a false start penalty last week, Jared Gaither (+1.1) was claimed off of waivers by the Chargers. In spite of only arriving with in San Diego last Wednesday and having to then endure a transcontinental flight to Jacksonville, Gaither put up a strong showing in pass protection that the Chargers have so lacked since they lost Marcus McNeill to injury in the first Thursday night game of the season. Gaither was, statistically, perfect in pass protection with his only negatively-graded play coming off of a holding penalty on John Chick at the 1:54 mark of the second quarter. The Jaguars were without their best three pass rushers for much of this game, with Chick being added to the losses of Aaron Kampman and Matt Roth, but it is difficult to overstate just how impressive a job Gaither did in this game considering the circumstances.

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Old 12-07-2011, 09:32 AM   #12
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I've heard two national people on the radio this morning say that Gaither can't play RT - Baltimore even said so after they released him.

So this isn't about Barry Richardson, it's about BRANDON ALBERT.

Yes, Gaither did pretty good Monday night but he did it at LT not RT.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:06 AM   #13
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Running backs also have some of the most volatile levels of production and some of the shortest shelf-lives in the NFL. Coupled with the fact that there are almost always some sleepers deeper in the draft, it doesn't make sense from a value perspective to draft a runningback really anywhere in the top 20 in my mind.
As a general rule, I agree with this line of thinking, but there are some RBs that I think are an exception.

Jim Brown, OJ Simpson, Earl Campbell, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, and Marshall Faulk come to mind.

Trent Richardson brings Earl Campell to mind when I watch him play, and if we are drafting at 14 or 15, if he's there, highly improbable, I'd be hard pressed to pass on him in the draft.

Clearly QB is the priority for this team, and for any team that doesn't have one.

But if there isn't a first round QB on the board, Trent Richardson should be a very strong consideration.

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I watched the packers last season.

Rogers got his face bashed in and overcame it. HE took loads of hits.

I've seen Montana get sacked 7 times in a half.

Shut up.

Good QB's take hits too. They're not immune. Not all guys move and throw quick like Drew Brees and not all are damn near immune to injury like Favre and Big ben. You don't let 300 pound men have a free shot at your most important player as often as possible just to prove how Barry Richardson is good enough. He's a liability and that's ESPECIALLY true if the QB is of value to the team.
The argument isn't that we shouldn't make protection a priority.

It is that QB is THE priority.

There's no question we have work to do on the O-Line, but you should never make fixing the O-Line a bigger priority than finding a QB.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:32 AM   #14
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As a general rule, I agree with this line of thinking, but there are some RBs that I think are an exception.

Jim Brown, OJ Simpson, Earl Campbell, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, and Marshall Faulk come to mind.

Trent Richardson brings Earl Campell to mind when I watch him play, and if we are drafting at 14 or 15, if he's there, highly improbable, I'd be hard pressed to pass on him in the draft.

Clearly QB is the priority for this team, and for any team that doesn't have one.

But if there isn't a first round QB on the board, Trent Richardson should be a very strong consideration.



The argument isn't that we shouldn't make protection a priority.

It is that QB is THE priority.

There's no question we have work to do on the O-Line, but you should never make fixing the O-Line a bigger priority than finding a QB.
Good points. So many teams though with a young QB do not put a team around them, especially on the line. Rookies are going to hold onto the ball too long. This team cannot go RT in the first round and leave us with the same old crap at QB. We have the talent to go around a young QB but we do need to fix the void at RT.
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:08 AM   #15
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Good points. So many teams though with a young QB do not put a team around them, especially on the line. Rookies are going to hold onto the ball too long. This team cannot go RT in the first round and leave us with the same old crap at QB. We have the talent to go around a young QB but we do need to fix the void at RT.
In this particular draft, I suspect that RT can be addressed as late as the third and fourth rounds.
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