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Old 12-05-2011, 08:08 PM  
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Are you ****ing kidding me? Are you guys watching this right now? He's playing better than I've ever seen Richardson play. He's having a great game. There is no way in hell that he doesn't have a place on our starting line.

How can they **** this up? Haley & Pioli: **** YOU.

Thought this would make me feel a little better.....but it doesn't.


I can't believe they cut this guy. WTF were they thinking?
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:16 PM   #256
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Clearly RT is of concern, but to say we take care of that before looking for a QB is ridiculous. This team needs to do whatever it can to get a QB in the draft in round one and go from there to get a RT. The Chiefs Way has got to change.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:05 PM   #257
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yeah, why cant we draft a RT in the 2nd round? or just sign one. there are always something you can do to upgrade the position.

NUMBER 1 concern QB. We all have known that for years. lol
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:10 PM   #258
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And that's a smart idea. I'm just saying the mindset of "Oline first, QB second" is the kind of thinking that got us into this mess
I've heard that QB/LT/Pass Rusher are the three places that you really want elite talent if you can get it. I can see the reasoning behind that. I'd say you still need five decent guys on the O-Line. A crappy RT screws up the protection scheme and hampers the rest of the line, same thing in the running game with run blocking.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:12 PM   #259
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IMO you don't need a star at RT, just a solid guy.


It appears the Chiefs definition of solid and mine are a little different however.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:17 PM   #260
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And that's a smart idea. I'm just saying the mindset of "Oline first, QB second" is the kind of thinking that got us into this mess
This is a great point. There is no guard, center or RT that is ever worth a 1st rounder.
LT is the exception. You rarely hear of a UDFA LT playing unless the team is in dire straits. The Chargers managed to get a Pro Bowl Guard, (Dielman), as a UDFA Defensive Tackle for crying out loud.
The Chiefs had one of the most dominant O-Lines in the NFL for a decade and they couldn't do shit because there was a severe lack of talent in the "skill" positions.
While every great team starts at QB, and a good one doesn't need to be found in the 1st round, the skill guys are the key.

Imagine a team spending 5 years drafting OL in the 1st round. I don't believe they'd be very good.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:04 PM   #261
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This is a great point. There is no guard, center or RT that is ever worth a 1st rounder.
LT is the exception. You rarely hear of a UDFA LT playing unless the team is in dire straits. The Chargers managed to get a Pro Bowl Guard, (Dielman), as a UDFA Defensive Tackle for crying out loud.
The Chiefs had one of the most dominant O-Lines in the NFL for a decade and they couldn't do shit because there was a severe lack of talent in the "skill" positions.
While every great team starts at QB, and a good one doesn't need to be found in the 1st round, the skill guys are the key.

Imagine a team spending 5 years drafting OL in the 1st round. I don't believe they'd be very good.
We're on Year 3 of the offensive line rebuild project. We've spent high draft picks on two guards. And let's not forget a 2008 first rounder on Albert. I don't really think we can afford to have a balanced, tough, team while spending so many draft picks on one part of the offense.

The 2003 offensive line was built by a 3rd round pick trade for Roaf, a 3rd round pick that was spent TEN years prior, and a first round pick in 1999. That's it. Even our interior backup Donald Willis was a free agent.
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Dunno where or when I heard this but it makes sense.

To win a Superbowl you need 3-4 things. Franchise qb, Franchise LT, Elite Pass Rusher, opportunistic defense.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:22 PM   #263
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Dunno where or when I heard this but it makes sense.

To win a Superbowl you need 3-4 things. Franchise qb, Franchise LT, Elite Pass Rusher, opportunistic defense.
Franchise LT isn't one of them.
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Dunno where or when I heard this but it makes sense.

To win a Superbowl you need 3-4 things. Franchise qb, Franchise LT, Elite Pass Rusher, opportunistic defense.
If I'm got a for sure 1st thing mentioned, I'd like to have a second thing mentioned or pretty close to it.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:29 PM   #265
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Franchise LT isn't one of them.
Tell that to Jared Gaither, who just intercepted Palko... again.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:53 PM   #266
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And that's a smart idea. I'm just saying the mindset of "Oline first, QB second" is the kind of thinking that got us into this mess
well hopefully we get a top tier QB, a RT upgrade, a Pass Rusher and Berry, Charles and Moe back before next season.
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After being cut in a fit of anger by Kansas City following a false start penalty last week, Jared Gaither (+1.1) was claimed off of waivers by the Chargers. In spite of only arriving with in San Diego last Wednesday and having to then endure a transcontinental flight to Jacksonville, Gaither put up a strong showing in pass protection that the Chargers have so lacked since they lost Marcus McNeill to injury in the first Thursday night game of the season. Gaither was, statistically, perfect in pass protection with his only negatively-graded play coming off of a holding penalty on John Chick at the 1:54 mark of the second quarter. The Jaguars were without their best three pass rushers for much of this game, with Chick being added to the losses of Aaron Kampman and Matt Roth, but it is difficult to overstate just how impressive a job Gaither did in this game considering the circumstances.

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Old 12-07-2011, 09:32 AM   #269
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I've heard two national people on the radio this morning say that Gaither can't play RT - Baltimore even said so after they released him.

So this isn't about Barry Richardson, it's about BRANDON ALBERT.

Yes, Gaither did pretty good Monday night but he did it at LT not RT.
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Running backs also have some of the most volatile levels of production and some of the shortest shelf-lives in the NFL. Coupled with the fact that there are almost always some sleepers deeper in the draft, it doesn't make sense from a value perspective to draft a runningback really anywhere in the top 20 in my mind.
As a general rule, I agree with this line of thinking, but there are some RBs that I think are an exception.

Jim Brown, OJ Simpson, Earl Campbell, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, and Marshall Faulk come to mind.

Trent Richardson brings Earl Campell to mind when I watch him play, and if we are drafting at 14 or 15, if he's there, highly improbable, I'd be hard pressed to pass on him in the draft.

Clearly QB is the priority for this team, and for any team that doesn't have one.

But if there isn't a first round QB on the board, Trent Richardson should be a very strong consideration.

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I watched the packers last season.

Rogers got his face bashed in and overcame it. HE took loads of hits.

I've seen Montana get sacked 7 times in a half.

Shut up.

Good QB's take hits too. They're not immune. Not all guys move and throw quick like Drew Brees and not all are damn near immune to injury like Favre and Big ben. You don't let 300 pound men have a free shot at your most important player as often as possible just to prove how Barry Richardson is good enough. He's a liability and that's ESPECIALLY true if the QB is of value to the team.
The argument isn't that we shouldn't make protection a priority.

It is that QB is THE priority.

There's no question we have work to do on the O-Line, but you should never make fixing the O-Line a bigger priority than finding a QB.
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