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View Poll Results: Who do YOU think will be the next HC?
Todd Haley 63 49.61%
Mike Shanahan 7 5.51%
Bill Cowher 24 18.90%
Todd Bowles 3 2.36%
Leslie Frazier 0 0%
A Mystery Candidate 25 19.69%
Gaz 5 3.94%
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Old 01-30-2009, 01:47 PM  
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Alright, for the record: Who do YOU think will be the next HC?

I'm betting a new coach will be named early next week - so now's the time to pick your horse.

Who's it gonna be?

Haley?

Shanahan?

Cowher?

Bowles?

Frazier?

Mystery Candidate?


Let's find out who the Planet thinks will be the 11th Head Coach in Chiefs history.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:23 PM   #31
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All along I've been saying it will be a "WTF" hire - but as much as I hate to admit it, I'm starting to think that regardless of what the media says, Shanahan or Cowher could end up being the guy.

I'd actually be more surprised if we hire Haley - though everyone seems to think he's the favorite - than I would be if they hired Shanny or Cowher.
It's pretty much impossible for me to speculate, esp since they are going to be super quiet about whats going on. I assume when the SB is over we'll hear something shortly. There were some WTF candidates last year and they had some success, we'll just have to trust pioli. I definetly won't rule anyone out, even cowher and shanny.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:23 PM   #32
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I don't know much about Pioli, so I can't really figure what he's going to do. That said, to now he's come across as a very cautious and deliberate person who covers all of his bases and who also has a plan. He has also said that philosophically, he looks more at production than potential when evaluating a player, so he strikes me as a person who would rather go for something he can quantify than something he'd have to guess on. So if that carries over to the coaching search, it would make more sense to me that he'd prefer to hire someone with past experience as a head coach rather than a rookie guy with no experience. So I am not sold that Haley is his choice, nor am I sold that it should be his choice.

The other thing I wonder about with Haley, and maybe this is an unfair statement, but he has four little kids as far as I know, and would he be OK with putting everything aside and making football and being in charge of turning around the Chiefs as the head guy the top priority? Because as much time as assistants have to put in, the HC will have to be all in, and Pioli has worked with guys like Bellichik and Parcells who lived football pretty much 24/7...
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:24 PM   #33
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Initially, I thought that the Cowher rumor had legs, Mr. OnTheWarpath58. I mean, who's going to live in that house he bought? If it's unoccupied for too long, some lonely, half-mad, flea-infested hobo is going to claim squatter's rights and the neighborhood will go straight to hell. But now, I'm not so sure they were legs at all. They appear to have been more like pogo sticks. So, I'm going with Bruce Arians. He would be a first time HC (I believe that Pioli would prefer that), a guy who's offensive-minded, someone who has helped develop a young quarterback into a star (Payton The Ultra Magnificent For An AssClown Hillbilly), and - as a dark horse candidate - allows us to meet the requirements of the Rooney Rule all in one fell swoop ... or fell hop ... or something.

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Old 01-30-2009, 02:27 PM   #34
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Initially, I thought that the Cowher rumor had legs, Mr. OnTheWarpath58. I mean, who's going to live in that house he bought? If it's unoccupied for too long, some lonely, half-mad, flea-infested hobo is going to claim squatter's rights and the neighborhood will go straight to hell. But now, I'm not so sure they were legs at all. They appear to have been more like pogo sticks. So, I'm going with Bruce Arians. He would be a first time HC (I believe that Pioli would prefer that), a guy who's offensive-minded, someone who has helped develop a young quarterback into a star (Payton The Ultra Magnificent For An AssClown Hillbilly), and - as a dark horse candidate - allows us to meet the requirements of the Rooney Rule all in one fell swoop ... or fell hop ... or something.

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You and I are the only two people on this board to mention Bruce Arians.

And it wouldn't shock me in the least.

However, what would shock me is that Arians would qualify as meeting Rooney Rule requirements, as he is a white man.

Good to have you back - hope you stick around.

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Old 01-30-2009, 02:27 PM   #35
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:28 PM   #36
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Initially, I thought that the Cowher rumor had legs, Mr. OnTheWarpath58. I mean, who's going to live in that house he bought? If it's unoccupied for too long, some lonely, half-mad, flea-infested hobo is going to claim squatter's rights and the neighborhood will go straight to hell. But now, I'm not so sure they were legs at all. They appear to have been more like pogo sticks. So, I'm going with Bruce Arians. He would be a first time HC (I believe that Pioli would prefer that), a guy who's offensive-minded, someone who has helped develop a young quarterback into a star (Payton The Ultra Magnificent For An AssClown Hillbilly), and - as a dark horse candidate - allows us to meet the requirements of the Rooney Rule all in one fell swoop ... or fell hop ... or something.

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Bruce Arians? The offensive coordinator that Steeler fans hate?
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:28 PM   #37
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I don't know, I'm really starting to get this weird feeling it could be Cowher. A lot of things make sense for him being the next HC.

It's just weird to me that EVERYTHING is pointing to Haley and that seems just to convenient for Pioli...it reeks of smokescreen to me.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:30 PM   #38
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From a logical standpoint, I chose Haley.

IMO, it doesn't make any sense not to have hired a coach that's currently unemployed (Shanahan, Cowher, etc.) or a coach from the college ranks before the Senior Bowl, let alone the Super Bowl.

That leaves coordinators still coaching. Arians and LeBeau are out for obvious reasons, which leaves Pendergast and Haley.

Pendergast has never been mentioned as a head coaching candidate, anywhere. That leaves Haley.

Since Haley has ties with Pioli, I'd say he's the choice.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:34 PM   #39
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Initially, I thought that the Cowher rumor had legs, Mr. OnTheWarpath58. I mean, who's going to live in that house he bought? If it's unoccupied for too long, some lonely, half-mad, flea-infested hobo is going to claim squatter's rights and the neighborhood will go straight to hell. But now, I'm not so sure they were legs at all. They appear to have been more like pogo sticks. So, I'm going with Bruce Arians. He would be a first time HC (I believe that Pioli would prefer that), a guy who's offensive-minded, someone who has helped develop a young quarterback into a star (Payton The Ultra Magnificent For An AssClown Hillbilly), and - as a dark horse candidate - allows us to meet the requirements of the Rooney Rule all in one fell swoop ... or fell hop ... or something.

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Old 01-30-2009, 02:39 PM   #41
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From a logical standpoint, I chose Haley.

IMO, it doesn't make any sense not to have hired a coach that's currently unemployed (Shanahan, Cowher, etc.) or a coach from the college ranks before the Senior Bowl, let alone the Super Bowl.

That leaves coordinators still coaching. Arians and LeBeau are out for obvious reasons, which leaves Pendergast and Haley.

Pendergast has never been mentioned as a head coaching candidate, anywhere. That leaves Haley.

Since Haley has ties with Pioli, I'd say he's the choice.
When would they have had time to interview all their candidates, and hire someone?

Herm was just fired a week ago today. Late in the day. Any potential new hire already missed the Senior Bowl.

That means they had 2 days to conduct interviews and make an announcement, as the NFL prefers you not overshadow the SB and make big news. Neither Pioli or Clark are the types to ruffle the feathers of the league, unlike Al Davis.

I think a lot of people are going to be surprised, and disappointed when it's not Haley.
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I don't know, I'm really starting to get this weird feeling it could be Cowher. A lot of things make sense for him being the next HC.

It's just weird to me that EVERYTHING is pointing to Haley and that seems just to convenient for Pioli...it reeks of smokescreen to me.
To generate a smokescreen, there have to be leaks or some other media manipulation mechanism in play. By all accounts, the Chiefs top management are on information lockdown. That doesn't sound like a smokescreen to me.
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Smokescreen? What's the point of a smokescreen? Hasn't everyone else filled their HC position?
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:45 PM   #45
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You and I are the only two people on this board to mention Bruce Arians.

And it wouldn't shock me in the least.

However, what would shock me is that Arians would qualify as meeting Rooney Rule requirements, as he is a white man.

Good to have you back - hope you stick around.

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I had no idea Arians coached for the Chiefs.

Gretz interviewed him yesterday and has a piece on his blog about it. That Chiefs coaching staff that Marty had with him in the beginning was very impressive.

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And that staff of 12-men helped turn around the fortunes of the franchise. Consider the names Schottenheimer put together:
  • Joe Pendry – Offensive Coordinator.
  • Al Saunders – Wide receivers coach.
  • Bruce Arians – Running backs coach.
  • Howard Mudd – Offensive line coach.
  • Kurt Schottenheimer – Special teams coach.
  • Bill Cowher – Defensive Coordinator.
  • Tom Pratt – Defensive line coach.
  • Tony Dungy – Secondary coach.
  • Darvin Wallis – Defensive quality control.
  • Dave Redding – Strength & conditioning.
  • Russ Ball – assistant strength & condition.
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