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Old 01-06-2011, 01:44 PM  
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No Luck for Carolina
Andrew Luck decides to stay at Stanford for one more year. It's probably a wise decision unless there is a rookie salary cap coming.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:34 PM   #91
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Kietzman calling Gabbert "the happiest man in football right now." He has "a legitimate chance" to be the first overall pick.

So, unfortunately he's going to drop to the fourth round now.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:35 PM   #92
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I don't see how this makes him a dumbass. The guy comes from a rich family and is going to graduate from freaking STANFORD. That alone makes him already a success.

Money is money. It will still be there next year. Look at Sam Bradford - he had the worst junior season you could possibly imagine having and still went No. 1 overall. Short of getting his arm sawed off, Luck will likely still go No. 1 next year.
Luck's parents' money isn't his money. Furthermore, I highly doubt they're "we don't need $50 million" rich.

And as for getting a degree from Stanford - so? He can get that in the offseason. Spare me the degree crap, that has nothing to do with his ability to declare for the draft. (P.S. I know a guy with a PhD from Stanford and he's a research chemist making $45K, so let's dial down the rhetoric a bit.

If he goes out there and plays well but not elite, he could very well fall back in the draft. A regression of any sort will be a warning flag to NFL teams. Disagree with it if you'd like, but it happens every time.

I just don't think this is wise at all.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:37 PM   #93
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This is just him stating that he doesn't want to play for the Panthers. Anything else is ****ing bullshit.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:37 PM   #94
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I don't see how this makes him a dumbass. The guy comes from a rich family and is going to graduate from freaking STANFORD. That alone makes him already a success.
how exactly does graduating help him in the NFL?

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Money is money. It will still be there next year. Look at Sam Bradford - he had the worst junior season you could possibly imagine having and still went No. 1 overall. Short of getting his arm sawed off, Luck will likely still go No. 1 next year.
Look at Leinart and look at Locker. Locker went from being the #1 overall pick to not even being in the top 3 of his own position.

If he has some concussions next year or he jus plays terrible, he will likely slide down the board.
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Luck's parents' money isn't his money. Furthermore, I highly doubt they're "we don't need $50 million" rich.
Luck isn't making $50 even if he comes out. The only thing he's risking is some sort of career ending injury, and well...that's not a particularly likely scenario.
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I'm surprised so many people get uptight over the fact that Al Davis handed over too much guaranteed money to Jamarcus Russell. Do you think the Falcons or Rams are unhappy with how they spent their rookie QB money? The Jets?

The NFL works. There really isn't a need to change things up.
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Luck's parents' money isn't his money. Furthermore, I highly doubt they're "we don't need $50 million" rich.

And as for getting a degree from Stanford - so? He can get that in the offseason. Spare me the degree crap, that has nothing to do with his ability to declare for the draft. (P.S. I know a guy with a PhD from Stanford and he's a research chemist making $45K, so let's dial down the rhetoric a bit.

If he goes out there and plays well but not elite, he could very well fall back in the draft. A regression of any sort will be a warning flag to NFL teams. Disagree with it if you'd like, but it happens every time.

I just don't think this is wise at all.
Add to the fact that he'll have a new coach next year...this could be one big ass fail on his part.
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I'm surprised so many people get uptight over the fact that Al Davis handed over too much guaranteed money to Jamarcus Russell. Do you think the Falcons or Rams are unhappy with how they spent their rookie QB money? The Jets?

The NFL works. There really isn't a need to change things up.
Not when they're getting 2 billion dollars per year from ESPN just for MNF. and some teams are hurting for money? Sell the team to somebody who can run it.
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how exactly does graduating help him in the NFL?



Look at Leinart and look at Locker. Locker went from being the #1 overall pick to not even being in the top 3 of his own position.

If he has some concussions next year or he jus plays terrible, he will likely slide down the board.
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Locker wasn't going to be the top pick. People need to get over these premature internet reports. If Clausen didn't declare last year and had an off year, people would be saying he would have been a top 5 pick.
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The NFL works. There really isn't a need to change things up.
Owners don't want to invest so heavily in unproven commodities, and proven vets should absolutely resent the Bradfords of the world making more money than lock HOFers, such as P. Manning.

Whether it's "need" or not, things are going to change, and the n00bs will be sold out immediately in an effort to appease ownership and redirect more money into the vets' pockets.
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Not when they're getting 2 billion dollars per year from ESPN just for MNF. and some teams are hurting for money? Sell the team to somebody who can run it.
Exactly. The Raiders are hurting because they missed their evaluation on Russell, not because of the money he got.
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redirect more money into the vets' pockets.
That's a "maybe" at best.
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That's a "maybe" at best.
Might be. But that will be the ultimate goal from the players' perspective, I'd say.

Plus, the draft doesn't exactly "work" right now. How often do we hear about lengthy holdouts in the NBA? Why?

The system won't be identical, but a slotting system is coming.
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Good for him. All the "he's dumb" is kind of icky. He's still going to make more money than most of us will ever see.
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