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Alex Smith 4Ever · 01-05-2014, 02:42 PM

Alex played the game of his life and he was BETRAYED by the defense

Alex Smith dropped 44 points on the Colts and somehow still lost. Alex is a hero. 44 points can win you a SUPERBOWL. What happened to the best defense in the league? They sure weren't out there tonight. You could cut all of them and it wouldn't matter. What matters is having Alex.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-09-2014, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

I agree as far as this goes. Both had very good games. Alex arguably made a couple mistakes as did Bowe. I think people point to Bowe's mistake more because that one was the nail in the coffin. All the other mistakes that any other player made up to that point were possible to overcome.

I could also argue that Alex's errors were either negligible or were in some part contributed to by other players i.e. Gray admitting to slowing on the route that Alex over threw, the bad blocking on the fumble, the intentional ground that amounts to the same as the sack.

Alex played a hell of a game. Is he at fault for the loss? Only in the sense of it being a team game and that his play wasn't "perfect". Is it reasonable to place any real blame on him? No, I really don't think so.

And this is why people get pissy at the AS "defenders".

Blaming the blocking on that play?

I don't care if all 5 OLmen blew their block, Alex has to protect the ball.

Personally, I can live with the fumble and the throw to Gray.

It's the mistake of repeatedly calling for the snap with 10-15 seconds on the play clock in the 2nd half when you're trying to protect a lead that kills me. It's bad football from a guy that is praised for his smarts.

**HemiEd** · 01-09-2014, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

Is it reasonable to place any real blame on him? No, I really don't think so. If you're looking at the game in hindsight and thinking "what can we do to make sure that we win this game next time?" the answer will likely have very little to do with Alex.

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**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-09-2014, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Realistically speaking, you can't run the ball every play- especially when you're down to your 2nd and 3rd string RBs that are averaging less than 4 YPC.

At the very least, though, we should have been bleeding the hell out of the play clock. Going up 38-10 with 12 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, the clock was more the enemy than the team we were facing should have been. At that point, Reid had an obligation to get out of Indy as quickly as possible to preserve the lead and avoid further risk of injury. Why we weren't letting that sucker go down to 0:01 every offensive play is beyond me...

Beat me to it. If you want to pin something on AS, this is where it starts and ends, IMO.

Bad situational football from one of the smartest guys in the league.

Jakemall · 01-09-2014, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Beat me to it. If you want to pin something on AS, this is where it starts and ends, IMO.

Bad situational football from one of the smartest guys in the league.

Now that is a fair complaint. You would think though that if it were on Alex, Andy would be in his ear with "why the hell aren't you running the clock?"

Jakemall · 01-09-2014, 11:59 AM

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Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 01-09-2014, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

Now that is a fair complaint. You would think though that if it were on Alex, Andy would be in his ear with "why the hell aren't you running the clock?"

Unfortunately, this team does not care one bit about clock management.

FringeNC · 01-09-2014, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

There's your problem. You're looking for one area to blame.

ALL areas are to blame. They ALL made mistakes that played a role in losing a 28 point 3rd quarter lead.

No team ever plays perfect games. Game was no different from the Arrowhead games against SD and Denver, really. Just doesn't make sense to argue that the offense is responsible because they didn't score a TD every drive, especially against a team like Indy who doesn't have a great offense.

Sure, had the offense played perfectly in the second half -- we all know the handful of plays -- we'd have won. But if the offense has to play perfectly to win, we're doomed. It's obvious to me at least, going forward, that we can't win until we can occasionally stop the pass.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-09-2014, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

Now that is a fair complaint. You would think though that if it were on Alex, Andy would be in his ear with "why the hell aren't you running the clock?"

Obviously neither of them were paying attention. Nor anyone else in the huddle, on the sideline or in the coaches box. I haven't watched the broadcast yet, not sure if it was mentioned there.

Meanwhile, in the stands, I'm freaking the **** out.

ThaVirus · 01-09-2014, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

Now that is a fair complaint. You would think though that if it were on Alex, Andy would be in his ear with "why the hell aren't you running the clock?"

It falls on both of them.

The best defense really is a good offense. Had we scored one more TD after going up 38-10, we likely win the game. Had we gone on one extended drive in the 3rd or 4th quarter, we likely win the game. Had everything remained the same but we bled the play clock down to :01 before every snap, we likely win that game.

Three7s · 01-09-2014, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

It falls on both of them.

The best defense really is a good offense. Had we scored one more TD after going up 38-10, we likely win the game. Had we gone on one extended drive in the 3rd or 4th quarter, we likely win the game. Had everything remained the same but we bled the play clock down to :01 before every snap, we likely win that game.

It's hard to say who's at fault for the clock management. I've heard a lot of people blame Reid for that, but here we have people blaming Smith for it, as well. Who the heck knows?

NinerDoug · 01-09-2014, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

It's hard to say who's at fault for the clock management. I've heard a lot of people blame Reid for that, but here we have people blaming Smith for it, as well. Who the heck knows?

I think the idea is run the ball, burn the clock, but with your first and second string running backs out, that's kind of hard to do. All the injuries made for a tough situation.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-09-2014, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

It's hard to say who's at fault for the clock management. I've heard a lot of people blame Reid for that, but here we have people blaming Smith for it, as well. Who the heck knows?

Well, ultimately, the QB is responsible. He's the one calling for the snap.

However, when your QB is repeatedly going full reerun and calling for the snap with 13 on the clock when you're trying to hold a lead - someone should step up and make him aware - whether it be a coach or a fellow player.

Three7s · 01-09-2014, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Well, ultimately, the QB is responsible. He's the one calling for the snap.

However, when your QB is repeatedly going full reerun and calling for the snap with 13 on the clock when you're trying to hold a lead - someone should step up and make him aware - whether it be a coach or a fellow player.

Both of them, then.

Carlota69 · 01-09-2014, 12:20 PM

OMFG you guys are arguing like a bunch of women in this thread (and many other too lol).

Bottom line, WE LOST. If we have Jamaal Charles, we do not lose, even with the defensive collapse, AS fumble, we do not lose. We would of had some semblence of a running game in the 2nd half, he would of caught that pass, or we would of at least had a TD instead of FG.

Alex proved he can play like a MOFo, and we can win with him as long as we have a competent D. He is our best option right now, and probably for a year or two more. He needs to get an extension, and I believe he will sign one. I can only imagine afer being cast out of SF, he has something to prove, and he knows going to a new team and a new system (after next season) is not going to do it. Im sure hes tired of new systems. I bet he wants to be a Chief for a long time. And I certianly hope he is.

ThaVirus · 01-09-2014, 12:25 PM

I'm not so sure we put up 31 points in the first half with Charles. I'm not saying we wouldn't have, but having him in completely changes the game plan. The game would have been totally different..

I wish we could go back in time, keep Jamaal out for the first half like he was, then bring him back in for the second half. Holy balls, Indy's goose would have been cooked.

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01-09-2014, 12:20 PM	#734
Carlota69 MVP Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas Casino cash: $9925282	OMFG you guys are arguing like a bunch of women in this thread (and many other too lol). Bottom line, WE LOST. If we have Jamaal Charles, we do not lose, even with the defensive collapse, AS fumble, we do not lose. We would of had some semblence of a running game in the 2nd half, he would of caught that pass, or we would of at least had a TD instead of FG. Alex proved he can play like a MOFo, and we can win with him as long as we have a competent D. He is our best option right now, and probably for a year or two more. He needs to get an extension, and I believe he will sign one. I can only imagine afer being cast out of SF, he has something to prove, and he knows going to a new team and a new system (after next season) is not going to do it. Im sure hes tired of new systems. I bet he wants to be a Chief for a long time. And I certianly hope he is. __________________ Women want someone who can make them laugh and protect them. So basically a Clown Ninja.
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01-09-2014, 12:25 PM	#735
ThaVirus Searching.. Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $-1897631	I'm not so sure we put up 31 points in the first half with Charles. I'm not saying we wouldn't have, but having him in completely changes the game plan. The game would have been totally different.. I wish we could go back in time, keep Jamaal out for the first half like he was, then bring him back in for the second half. Holy balls, Indy's goose would have been cooked.
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