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Old 02-01-2014, 12:29 PM   #1
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For me, a guy that CONSISTENTLY performs in the clutch, is by definition not a game manager.
Matt Ryan is the NFL leader since 2008 in game winning drives...so "by definition" he is NOT a game manager.

Or, should I say by YOUR definition?
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Old 02-01-2014, 12:50 PM   #2
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Matt Ryan is the NFL leader since 2008 in game winning drives...so "by definition" he is NOT a game manager.

Or, should I say by YOUR definition?
Stop looking at stat sheets.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:16 PM   #3
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Stop looking at stat sheets.
You claimed that guys that are "consistently good in the clutch aren't game managers"

I show you that Matt Ryan has been the BEST NFL QUARTERBACK AT THAT EXACT METRIC

You tell me to stop looking at stat sheets as a response?

Really?

How is Matt Ryan not good in the clutch, but is the nfl leader in game winning drives?
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:25 PM   #4
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You claimed that guys that are "consistently good in the clutch aren't game managers"

I show you that Matt Ryan has been the BEST NFL QUARTERBACK AT THAT EXACT METRIC

You tell me to stop looking at stat sheets as a response?

Really?

How is Matt Ryan not good in the clutch, but is the nfl leader in game winning drives?
Watch the games.

He's terrible in the 2 minute drill. Despite the high number of comeback wins, he doesn't play consistently good in the 4th quarter.

I can go and dig up splits and show you how the guy performs down the stretch, consistently. He's not special and never will be. He's solid. Alex Smith is a far better QB.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:34 PM   #5
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"Game manager" is the same as "franchise QB". It's whatever you want it to be.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:45 PM   #6
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...Alex Smith is a far better QB.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:48 PM   #7
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I hate Matt Ryan.

He's the most overrated QB on this message board.

I used to be indifferent but it got old listening to everybody fawn over him.
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Old 02-01-2014, 01:51 PM   #8
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I hate Matt Ryan.

He's the most overrated QB on this message board.

I used to be indifferent but it got old listening to everybody fawn over him.
I never understood the love affair with him. I really didn't.

The year they drafted him, they also drafted Sam Baker, who had a really good Rookie year, not sure what his deal is now though, they signed Michael Turner, had Roddy White, and every year it seems they have added weapon after weapon, including drafting Julio Jones, trading for Tony Gonzalez, and continued to add add add. They built around your franchise qb the way that you are supposed to.

THe same thing has happened with Andy Dalton.

They are one in the same qbs to me. The biggest difference is in my opinion is that one plays 9 games minimum a year in a dome, the other plays in Cincinnatti.

Cant stand either one of them.

Although, seeing Dalton fail over and over, helps when you are a browns fan.

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Old 02-01-2014, 01:55 PM   #9
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I hate Matt Ryan.

He's the most overrated QB on this message board.

I used to be indifferent but it got old listening to everybody fawn over him.
His #'s have been solid.

And before the horrible year Atlanta just had, Matt Ryan as starter was 56-22 (72% winning) and the Falcons made the playoffs 4 out of 6 seasons.

Solid.

You can go on about his failures in postseason play, but as Chiefs fans we are not qualified to comment in this matter.
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Matt Ryan is the NFL leader since 2008 in game winning drives...so "by definition" he is NOT a game manager.

Or, should I say by YOUR definition?
I don't understand this idea that game managers don't lead game winning drives?
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I don't understand this idea that game managers don't lead game winning drives?
It's in the "how", which he's not looking at.
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