Electronics Do you use it? - Page 2

DenverChief · 02-09-2014, 04:48 AM

I'm curious how many CP members use radar detecting or lidar defeating technology. I know 2 "states" (DC and Virginia) prohibit the use of detectors, about a dozen states prohibit lidar jamming and the feds prohibit all radar jamming.

So let's hear it CP what kind of setup do you use? Any good stories just missing a ticket? Poll forthcoming.

DenverChief · 02-09-2014, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

Sorry I wasn't suggesting people don't know it , I was just listing why it's not worth my effort to do it. As per radar jammers being illegal...sure...but the reality is you won't have the gear to detect it unless I really give you reason to do so.

Lidar Jamming isn't really illegal in most places because its not regulated by the FCC, but technically it's much harder to do effectively because many countermeasures can be defeated in a straight forward way.

The on exception is automated speed cameras etc. Not only are those the devil, they're also much easier to fry because you know where there are. If someone really wanted to cook the camera sensor and or the lidar/radar sensor for those they could do so much easier

For me the issue is you're always fighting the losing battle here, it's better to drive 'smarter' than it is to try to beat the tech.

Don't need detecting gear to visually clock your speed when my radar won't lock on, make a traffic stop and inspect the vehicle for a jamming device and confiscate the device or Impound the vehicle. Lidar would have to be more obvious. Correct lidar is not regulated by the FCC but rather the FDA. Many states (about 12) have enacted state laws prohibiting the use of lidar jammers. See CRS 42-4-1415

DenverChief · 02-09-2014, 06:40 AM

Communications act of 1934 section 333 and 501

$10,000 fine and/or 1 year imprisonment for jamming radar.

State law is $1000 and/or 3 days up to 6 months IIRC

**HemiEd** · 02-09-2014, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

I used to own a Cobra something or other but chucked it in the garbage because EVERYTHING set it off and it became quite the annoyance

See, that is my issue. I used to use them, all the way back to the original "fuzz buster" then "fuzz buster II" "Escort", "Cobra". 55 sucked!

I haven't had a ticket in 15 years running naked driving coast to coast. 75-80 is plenty fast on the interstate for me.

**LoneWolf** · 02-09-2014, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

75-80 is plenty fast on the interstate for me.

This. With the new speed limit laws on the interstates I don't feel the need to speed. If the speed limit is 75, I'll set my cruise control on 80 and I know technically that is speeding but I also know that it isn't worth the cops time to pull me over. I don't understand all the lead footed drivers who feel it necessary to drive 90-100 on the interstate.

**HemiEd** · 02-09-2014, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

This. With the new speed limit laws on the interstates I don't feel the need to speed. If the speed limit is 75, I'll set my cruise control on 80 and I know technically that is speeding but I also know that it isn't worth the cops time to pull me over. I don't understand all the lead footed drivers who feel it necessary to drive 90-100 on the interstate.

Exactly, and you usually catch up to them anyway.

I really irks me when I see some young gal in a toy car going that fast.

Both of my daughters had accidents at an early age that scared the crap out of them, and now they are very cautious. At 80, you are going 88 feet per second.

Oh, and the other thing, especially on my Ram 1500, the gas mileage difference is huge.

DenverChief · 02-09-2014, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

the gas mileage difference is huge.

Yep. I don't understand hwy speeding. It's the in city speeding that gets you 45 in a 35 or 50 in a 40.

**Bearcat** · 02-09-2014, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

Understand outside of school zones I always speed, I laugh hat how much people are pussies who refuse to pass a cop on the highway. If the cop isn't flashing his lights to slow traffic for some issue I have no problem going 5-7MPH over the speed limit to pass them. Could they pull me over? Sure but it's not generally worth their effort.

That always amuses me. It must suck for cops though when they get on the highway and traffic drops to 3-5mph under the speed limit. There have been several times when I've gotten out of a cluster**** of cars and look back a minute or two later to see a wall of cars.... a few times, the cop will get out of it and get behind me going ~3mph over and I want to push my luck, but try not to.

**LoneWolf** · 02-09-2014, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Yep. I don't understand hwy speeding. It's the in city speeding that gets you 45 in a 35 or 50 in a 40.

Speeding in the city makes even less sense to me. With all the traffic and start/stop driving, you aren't getting anywhere faster. You're also more likely to get stopped or get in an accident.

**Bearcat** · 02-09-2014, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Exactly, and you usually catch up to them anyway.

Yeah, even going 75-80 in a 70 can be hard if there are a lot of trucks on the road, since so many people can't pass one without dropping to the speed limit or under.... anyone you pass just ends up right behind you at the next cluster**** of cars.

I try to stay just under 80 for longer drives... it cuts down the ~200 mile trip to Omaha by about 20 minutes and at least at one time in MO, the difference between 9 over and 10 over was like $30 (IIRC), so the logical thing would be to either drive at 79 or 85+ (not that it never happens...

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DenverChief · 02-09-2014, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Speeding in the city makes even less sense to me. With all the traffic and start/stop driving, you aren't getting anywhere faster. You're also more likely to get stopped or get in an accident.

Not the I drive 45 everywhere I go crowd but the 45 Mph that randomly drops to 35 because a council person likes 35 on that stretch of road. My favorite is a couple towns over the state hwy is 65 Mph even thru some of the towns. Then you get to this one Town and it drops to 50 for about 1/4 mile then back to 65. Wtf

Eleazar · 02-09-2014, 07:20 AM

Like someone said above, I just take my medicine if I get stopped. I don't ridiculously speed, but I could be stopped for technically speeding just about every day, so I can't really complain.

**Bearcat** · 02-09-2014, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Speeding in the city makes even less sense to me. With all the traffic and start/stop driving, you aren't getting anywhere faster. You're also more likely to get stopped or get in an accident.

Yeah, there's really no logical point unless you're trying to cut off several minutes of a long drive. People who really think getting past one more car is worth it just slow down traffic by cutting off people.

tmax63 · 02-09-2014, 07:34 AM

I use the "I donated to XXX Police Fund" sticker in the driver side rear window. Also Being 50 and looking it helps some. I try to stay within 5mph of the posted limit most of the time or go with the flow of traffic, whichever is faster. We have a little town close to me on major 2 lane (65mph) highway. When I say little I mean no stoplights, 1/4 mile frontage 25 people small where the speed limit drops from 65 to 35 for that 1/4 mile then back up. It is the main revenue source for the town.

keg in kc · 02-09-2014, 07:52 AM

Lump me in the 5 mph over group. Seems to work most of the time, knock on wood. Sometimes I'll go faster if there's a big convoy of people speeding, as long as I can get somewhere in the middle of it.

**Bwana** · 02-09-2014, 08:02 AM

I use a Beltronics radar detector and it works very well. I cover the state of Montana and if the roads are nice I get after it. I have slowed way down from the no speed limit days, or the days when it was a $5 ticket, but I normally keep it at 10 over. In Montana you get a $20 ticket that doesn't go on your record for anything 10 MPH over or less. That's to say if the MHP even wants to take the time to pull you over for $20. That's only happened to me once.

Around here the MHP will give you the quick pull on the radar at the last minute so by the time your radar detector goes off, you're screwed. Mine has some serious range, so 99% of the time it will pick up the MHP gunning someone else miles up the road before I get to him, so I know he's around. I haven't had a ticket that has gone on my record for over 25 years. (Disclaimer: I had to bullshit my way out of one about five years ago)

View Poll Results: What do you use?
I use a radar/lidar detector only	6	9.84%
I use a lidar jammer only	0	0%
I use anti reflective coating on my headlights/license plate only	1	1.64%
I use 2/3 of above (specify)	0	0%
I use all three	0	0%
none/other (specify)	54	88.52%
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

02-09-2014, 04:48 AM
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	Do you use it? I'm curious how many CP members use radar detecting or lidar defeating technology. I know 2 "states" (DC and Virginia) prohibit the use of detectors, about a dozen states prohibit lidar jamming and the feds prohibit all radar jamming. So let's hear it CP what kind of setup do you use? Any good stories just missing a ticket? Poll forthcoming.
Posts: 17,051

02-09-2014, 06:40 AM	#17
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	Communications act of 1934 section 333 and 501 $10,000 fine and/or 1 year imprisonment for jamming radar. State law is $1000 and/or 3 days up to 6 months IIRC
Posts: 17,051

02-09-2014, 07:20 AM	#26
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Like someone said above, I just take my medicine if I get stopped. I don't ridiculously speed, but I could be stopped for technically speeding just about every day, so I can't really complain.
Posts: 80,659

02-09-2014, 07:34 AM	#28
tmax63 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Casino cash: $443600	I use the "I donated to XXX Police Fund" sticker in the driver side rear window. Also Being 50 and looking it helps some. I try to stay within 5mph of the posted limit most of the time or go with the flow of traffic, whichever is faster. We have a little town close to me on major 2 lane (65mph) highway. When I say little I mean no stoplights, 1/4 mile frontage 25 people small where the speed limit drops from 65 to 35 for that 1/4 mile then back up. It is the main revenue source for the town. __________________ An armed member of society is a citizen, an unarmed member is a subject.
Posts: 3,995

02-09-2014, 07:52 AM	#29
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Lump me in the 5 mph over group. Seems to work most of the time, knock on wood. Sometimes I'll go faster if there's a big convoy of people speeding, as long as I can get somewhere in the middle of it.
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02-09-2014, 08:02 AM	#30
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2135760532	I use a Beltronics radar detector and it works very well. I cover the state of Montana and if the roads are nice I get after it. I have slowed way down from the no speed limit days, or the days when it was a $5 ticket, but I normally keep it at 10 over. In Montana you get a $20 ticket that doesn't go on your record for anything 10 MPH over or less. That's to say if the MHP even wants to take the time to pull you over for $20. That's only happened to me once. Around here the MHP will give you the quick pull on the radar at the last minute so by the time your radar detector goes off, you're screwed. Mine has some serious range, so 99% of the time it will pick up the MHP gunning someone else miles up the road before I get to him, so I know he's around. I haven't had a ticket that has gone on my record for over 25 years. (Disclaimer: I had to bullshit my way out of one about five years ago) __________________ Adventure is dangerous....but monotony can kill you.
Posts: 70,503