Reaction to Marcus smart shoving a fan

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by kevonm

So the fan gets a stiffer punishment than the player who shoved him?

Yep, fan accountability. The 50 year old asshole who personally insults college athletes at games is the guy who should truly be ashamed by his actions here.

[kevonm]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yep, fan accountability. The 50 year old asshole who personally insults college athletes at games is the guy who should truly be ashamed by his actions here.

Fan accountability? I have never heard that phrase. You really think that is the precedent? Should colleges police all things said by fans? How are the Antlers still attending games?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by kevonm

Fan accountability? I have never heard that phrase. You really think that is the precedent? Should colleges police all things said by fans? How are the Antlers still attending games?

I don't think fans should be able to say whatever the hell they want to athletes without repercussions. Especially college athletes. I think any reasonable person would agree.

[a pp roach]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I don't think fans should be able to say whatever the hell they want to athletes without repercussions. Especially college athletes. I think any reasonable person would agree.

yeah, seriously. these guys were in high school not long ago and if you have kids of your own they will be that age/are that age/have been that age and should be able to relate in SOME way, since a parent has been that age also.

[kevonm]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I don't think fans should be able to say whatever the hell they want to athletes without repercussions. Especially college athletes. I think any reasonable person would agree.

Yes they would, where they would not agree is who should be punished more severely.

Why are you so sure he didn't just call him a piece of crap? The fan admitted to saying something vaguely supported by video (audio really) evidence.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by kevonm

Why are you so sure he didn't just call him a piece of crap? The fan admitted to saying something vaguely supported by video (audio really) evidence.

To be clear, I'm not sure about anything. Nothing was made any clearer by them posting that video.

But for Smart to react like he never has before to a taunt/insult (and he gets taunted in every road game ceaselessly), for the fan himself to admit he was ashamed over what he said (and that he went too far), and for the fan to voluntarily decide not to go to any more games, it all leads one to believe that it was something far more than that.

[kevonm]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

To be clear, I'm not sure about anything. Nothing was made any clearer by them posting that video.

But for Smart to react like he never has before to a taunt/insult (and he gets taunted in every road game ceaselessly), for the fan himself to admit he was ashamed over what he said (and that he went too far), and for the fan to voluntarily decide not to go to any more games, it all leads one to believe that it was something far more than that.

the fan apology was a PR deal, just like the Marcus Smart apology. He took games off because he thought it is what would be expected. I am sure TT had something to do with him taking games off. You think either one of them felt bad? That is not a sign that there is more beneath the surface.

Smart is taunted just as ceaselessly as other athletes. You don't think the chair incident establishes he has a temper?

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by kevonm

the fan apology was a PR deal, just like the Marcus Smart apology. He took games off because he thought it is what would be expected. I am sure TT had something to do with him taking games off. You think either one of them felt bad? That is not a sign that there is more beneath the surface.

Smart is taunted just as ceaselessly as other athletes. You don't think the chair incident establishes he has a temper?

i wonder what the chair called him.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by kevonm

the fan apology was a PR deal, just like the Marcus Smart apology.

You apparently missed the text message last night that was posted online, which is what I was referring to. Nothing PR about that.

[ta900]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

To be clear, I'm not sure about anything. Nothing was made any clearer by them posting that video.

But for Smart to react like he never has before to a taunt/insult (and he gets taunted in every road game ceaselessly), for the fan himself to admit he was ashamed over what he said (and that he went too far), and for the fan to voluntarily decide not to go to any more games, it all leads one to believe that it was something far more than that.

Are you on crack man? Have you not watched Smart the last month. Simply calling him a little bitch would set him off on a tirade the way he's been acting this last month. I can't believe you're trying to defend that hothead smart.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yep, fan accountability. The 50 year old asshole who personally insults college athletes at games is the guy who should truly be ashamed by his actions here.

See, this is where I'm not sure how anyone can take you seriously on this, man. You act like this type of fan behavior is not normal.

Certain fanbases (who shall remain unnamed) actually have groups in their midst that take pride in being derogatory and personal. As an example, will call the player 24\7 for the week leading up to the game in an attempt to harass them.. they will hold up signs about their dead relatives in the games... etc etc...

And this was within this very conference in recent history. This guy calling a kid a "piece of crap" or whatever is far from the worst thing that will happen or has ever happened even to Marcus Smart. Marcus lost his temper (this is becoming the norm with him) because of what was happening on the court, and used this guy as a target for his fury.

It is out of the norm for an athlete to do this.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Zeke

See, this is where I'm not sure how anyone can take you seriously on this, man. You act like this is not normal.

Certain fanbases (who shall remain unnamed) actually have groups in their midst that take pride in being derogatory and personal. As an example, will call the player 24\7 for the week leading up to the game in an attempt to harass them.. they will hold up signs about their dead relatives in the games... etc etc...

And this was within this very conference in recent history. This guy calling a kid a "piece of crap" or whatever is far from the worst thing that will happen or has ever happened even to Marcus Smart. Marcus lost his temper (this is becoming the norm with him) because of what was happening on the court, and used this guy as a target for his fury.

It is out of the norm for an athlete to do this.

I know it's normal. I've been to these games in a multiplicity of locations. I've seen the hateful, juvenile, often racist shit that people yell at these athletes during games. And it's that fact that is exactly what disgusts me the most and what I take issue with. They should not be allowed to do so. Whether he called Smart a piece of crap (which sounds like total bullshit to me) or something far worse, it shouldn't be acceptable at all.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I know it's normal. I've been to these games in a multiplicity of locations. I've seen the hateful, juvenile, often racist shit that people yell at these athletes during games. And it's that fact that is exactly what disgusts me the most and what I take issue with. They should not be allowed to do so. Whether he called Smart a piece of crap (which sounds like total bullshit to me) or something far worse, it shouldn't be acceptable at all.

And this is one of your points that I fully agree with (which I stated earlier).

Time for some Walking Dead!