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Old 03-03-2014, 06:45 PM  
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Tyson Jackson says the Chiefs haven't been negotiating a contract

With him but could in the next couple of weeks.


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Old 03-11-2014, 11:23 AM   #121
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Because the All-Pro NT, two All-Pro OLBs, a near All-Pro ILB, and another supposedly great run stopper at the opposite DE spot in our front 7 are overrated?

Makes sense.
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:24 AM   #122
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Makes sense.
I was being obviously facetious.

Think for a minute about what you're saying.

You made a list of All-Pro players in the front 7 yet we aren't good against the run because of ONE GUY?
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:26 AM   #123
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I'm trying to figure this shit out. If T Jax is so good against the run, with an All-Pro NT, two All-Pro OLBs, a near All-Pro ILB, and another supposedly great run stopper at the opposite DE spot in our front 7, why do we suck against the run?
Because what they mean by "good against the run" is that he can hold up at the point of attack and doesn't get pushed around easily. He rarely makes the play himself but can occupy a space and some blockers basically. I consider that JAG play and next to useless.

Give me a guy who will blow up the blocks himself and make the play himself, that's what a truly effective DL player does, none of this bs sit and wait for someone else to come make the play for you. Guys like Jackson are a dime-a-dozen, it's the disrupters that you really want if you ever want to have an effective defense.
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:26 AM   #124
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Because the All-Pro NT, two All-Pro OLBs, a near All-Pro ILB, and another supposedly great run stopper at the opposite DE spot in our front 7 are overrated?
I don't think that's it at all...I just think the DC is a stubborn old ball coach that couldn't make adjustments to save his families lives.

The amount of snaps some of those guys played was just silly...it's especially bad when you watch games like the SD finale where the backups showed the ability to play at a very high level.

These guys were gassed towards the end of the year.
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:27 AM   #125
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Guys like Jackson are a dime-a-dozen
And yet they've never been able to replace him...
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I don't think that's it at all...I just think the DC is a stubborn old ball coach that couldn't make adjustments to save his families lives.

The amount of snaps some of those guys played was just silly...it's especially bad when you watch games like the SD finale where the backups showed the ability to play at a very high level.

These guys were gassed towards the end of the year.
Read my response to Virus. I don't really think those guys are overrated...
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Our backup defense had 5 sacks against a SD team that was in full blown playoff mode.
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And yet they've never been able to replace him...
Cause they always hoped that he would get better. No team is going to quit that easily on their top 10 pick unless the player is truly horrendous.
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Our backup defense had 5 sacks against a SD team that was in full blown playoff mode.
Element of surprise.

Bailey and Catapano will be lucky to get 5 sacks all of the next season, combined.
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Cause they always hoped that he would get better. No team is going to quit that easily on their top 10 pick unless the player is truly horrendous.
Yet some of the guys they drafted to be his backup can't even see the field, if they're even still on the team...
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I was being obviously facetious.



Think for a minute about what you're saying.



You made a list of All-Pro players in the front 7 yet we aren't good against the run because of ONE GUY?

I'm honestly trying to figure it out. There were times when our run defense looked ****ing impregnable and there were times when I felt I could average 5 YPC running through it.

I think Houston, DJ and Poe are very good against the run. Hali is probably not on their level. I saw Akeem Jordan miss several tackles/gaps in limited time. Devito and Jackson are supposed to be two hogs but they just rarely seem to make an impact.

It just seemed like whenever our linemen made a play against the run it was always Poe. I rarely remember seeing Devito or Jackson rip off their guy and make the stop themselves.
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Also, Pioli has had some truly bad drafts.
True.

Yet another reason not to put too much hope into Allen Bailey. He was drafted by the same guy that drafted Alex Magee.
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Yet some of the guys they drafted to be his backup can't even see the field, if they're even still on the team...
What coach is going to bench a former top 5 pick who is performing decently for a relatively unknown 3rd round or later pick who has only been in the league for a couple of years? No coach is going to do that unless that back-up proves himself to be clearly superior in every respect of the game. They didn't start Bailey over him because Bailey was a developmental pick that they hoped would become a better pass rusher than Jackson. There's a reason why they took Jackson out on a lot of 3rd down snaps, because they know he sucks as a pass rusher and needs to be upgraded.

Man, Chiefs fans and their propensity to want to hang onto mediocre players.

It's time to move on from Jackson like it was time to move on from McCluster. Just like it'll be time to move on from Hali and Flowers next season when it'll be feasible to cut their salaries to open up some cap room.
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