Is this 2004 déjà vu?

[BossChief]

It just seems like so far that's where this offseason is heading.

We have a good year and then in the offseason we spin our wheels/take steps back...while other teams in division are clearly bolstering their lineups.

I just feel like this is the offseason we need to make a push to put the pieces in place to win some playoff games and unless we add some serious pieces, we have a better chance at missing the playoffs all together.

This doesn't have much to do with day 1 free agency as it does the fact there has been no movement to try and create cap space by restructuring deals, no interest in the affordable signings and we let 3 quality OL walk in a year a division for is bolstering their pass rush and coverage units.

Just feels just like 2004, so far anyway.

Anyone else feel this way?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

It's March 12 people a lot of off-season left.

You're right. KC has yet to draft a guard and a project DT with their first two picks.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

It's a new front office, so "their" draft picks start with Eric Fisher.

(sigh)

So they shouldn't figure the age of the current roster into the equation?

I've always respected your takes, keg and I'm taking your point of view into consideration because of such, but at the end of the day they seem like they have little to no interest in most of the guys that were here before they got here and their respective ages into the big picture of how they are going to win a title and that's a little hard to swallow after trading for a quarterback that's 30 years old and has a window that's not huge himself.

When you trade for a 30 year old quarterback, don't you pretty much acknowledge that you are in win now mode at that point?

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Lets say you have been at your job for 4 years and have put in extra hours and have spent personal time learning the aspects of the jobs of those above you in your place of business.

During this time, you have been living in a very modest house that your family has outgrown.

You get informed by your employer that they are going to offer you a position that carries a pay increase of 30% over your already good rate.

One of the first things you do is contact a realtor to gauge the housing market, right?

I'm not sure. Am I still in the Texas holdem tournament?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

It's March 12 people a lot of off-season left.

True...but it would be nice to hear some rumblings of us working on restructures or extensions to at least try to make some moves.

If they aren't gonna do that, at least make a push to use that money to lock up some pending free agents for next year.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

So they shouldn't figure the age of the current roster into the equation?

I've always respected your takes, keg and I'm taking your point of view into consideration because of such, but at the end of the day they seem like they have little to no interest in most of the guys that were here before they got here and their respective ages into the big picture of how they are going to win a title and that's a little hard to swallow after trading for a quarterback that's 30 years old and has a window that's not huge himself.

When you trade for a 30 year old quarterback, don't you pretty much acknowledge that you are in win now mode at that point?

How did you come to this conclusion?

How?

No big FA signings?

I fully expect these guys to have championship goals by year 3.
What have they done that should make me feel otherwise?

[BossChief]

By year 3, a lot of our stars will be either past their prime or be gone already.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You're right. KC has yet to draft a guard and a project DT with their first two picks.

I'm laughing on the outside, but crying on the inside.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

True...but it would be nice to hear some rumblings of us working on restructures or extensions to at least try to make some moves.

If they aren't gonna do that, at least make a push to use that money to lock up some pending free agents for next year.

Not hearing anything by day 2 of FA means they are not doing these things?
I should probably just leave this thread.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by BossChief

So they shouldn't figure the age of the current roster into the equation?

I've always respected your takes, keg and I'm taking your point of view into consideration because of such, but at the end of the day they seem like they have little to no interest in most of the guys that were here before they got here and their respective ages into the big picture of how they are going to win a title and that's a little hard to swallow after trading for a quarterback that's 30 years old and has a window that's not huge himself.

When you trade for a 30 year old quarterback, don't you pretty much acknowledge that you are in win now mode at that point?

Couple of thoughts:

There are a lot of ways of looking at the players they've let go. Maybe they just don't see them as pieces that fit what they want to do, long term. Which is not at all unusual when franchises rebuild. That's just the reality of it. Front offices tend to want 'their' guys, and let's face it, whether these players have made pro bowls are not, was there really anybody who's been allowed to walk who was an irreplaceable superstar? I can't think of a single player that's gone that signed somewhere else for a contract that I would have been satisfied with had they remained here (and that includes Carr). We're talking big dollars for players who are pretty good, but, really, nothing all that spectacular.

30 years old is not old for a quarterback. Guys have been playing the position at a high level into their mid- to late-30s for a long time. Alex Smith has plenty of limitations, but his age isn't one of them. So I wouldn't talk about him like he's a year or two away from retirement. It's not at all inconceivable that he's still starting here in, say, 2020. As frightening a concept as that is.

And of course, don't mistake any of this as support of or satisfaction with the front office. I'm talking in purely philosophical terms. I don't like a lot of the moves they've made, including both Alex Smith and Eric Fisher, but I also don't have a particular problem with the way they've handled any of the vets. I mean, I like(d) Branden Albert, but I'd never have paid him what the Dolphins did. Especially not with the injuries he's struggled with the last two years and with Stephenson playing well, as well as, like him or not, Fisher being here.

You also have to consider possible future contracts for players who'll be coming up for new deals in the next year or two. Who's more important long term, say, Albert (or even, say, Byrd) or Justin Houston? Sometimes choices have to be made, and there are likely way more facets to all of this than we ever realize....

[BossChief]

I get all that, Keg...but we haven't been linked to any of the free agent safeties and the draft has very limited options at the position.

Every single one of us knows that that we need a FS that can start day one and play at a high level....nothing.

We know the line solidified when Schwartz entered the lineup and he's gone.

I'm just happy we re-signed Abdullah to such a bargain deal. Easily the best bang for the buck thus far in all of FA IMO.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by BossChief

The Broncos have lots of guys walk and found a way to sign 3 top tier difference makers in Ward, Talib and Ware.

Come on now you are being way over the top with everything and you are letting it cloud your mind.
Also Denver has not signed Ware.
You know how about a little faith. You are/were one of those that hated the Alex Smith trade. Now that decision looks like the best one.
Just because they are not doing what YOU wish doesn't mean that everything is lost or that we can't still find quality players to fill our needs without overpaying.
Any of you guys that thought we were going to break the bank for a player or two were foolish in your thoughts then and now.

[milkman]

Keg, I've pointed out numerous times that only 4 SBs have been won by QBs over the age of 33.
That means that the chances of winning with Alex Smith after 3 years substatntially decrease, especially since one of his positive attributes is his mobility.

So, the reality is, trading for a 29 year old QB is a win now move.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by BossChief

By year 3, a lot of our stars will be either past their prime or be gone already.

And we will have guys drafted to take over. I like moving forward with Fisher. Also feel very comfortable moving forward with Knile Davis when that time comes.

Tamba or Flowers, likely both, will be watching as their replacements are drafted in May.

[RunKC]

Broncos are not a tough team. They don't have chemistry. And what's hilarious is now they are going from signing Big name FA's to signing old injured FA's.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I get all that, Keg...but we haven't been linked to any of the free agent safeties and the draft has very limited options at the position.

Every single one of us knows that that we need a FS that can start day one and play at a high level....nothing.

We know the line solidified when Schwartz entered the lineup and he's gone.

I'm just happy we re-signed Abdullah to such a bargain deal. Easily the best bang for the buck thus far in all of FA IMO.

OMG we are 21 hours into FA and we didn't sign one of the first tier players!!!
That is all that any media outlets are talking about right now.
We were not and are not going to sign one of those players. We will be signing role players and such that will be in the 2cd tier of FA signings. Knowing that we are not interested in those overpriced type FA our FO are working on new deals for Alex Smith and Justin Houston. That has been publicly stated and talked about here on CP. That is working on lowering our cap number that would allow us to sign another player or two.