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ShowtimeSBMVP · 11:13 AM

Executives crying foul over Emmanuel Sanders deal

By Ian Rapoport NFL.com
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Published: March 16, 2014 at 12:05 a.m. Updated: March 16, 2014 at 12:19 a.m. 8 Likes | 2 Comments
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Emmanuel Sanders is expected to sign with the Broncos tomorrow, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations."

Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Bucs, according to another source involved in the process.

While shopping the Chiefs offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off.

"This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped."

Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations.

The Dallas-based agent was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collecting a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients.

Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred.

While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, by Weinberg shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that a deal had been reached showed another side of the business. It is unclear if the Broncos were aware of the previous actions.

"When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper."

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TEX · 03-16-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

No, nor has it been shown to be the case. I don't mistake big boy business for being unethical.
How was Elway complicit in the agent's deal dealings with other teams?

Use your head. Maybe you can figure it out. You KNOW the reason or you wouldnt be here asking us to explain it to you. Your game's old dude. **** off!

vailpass · 03-16-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PA Chiefs

Not sure but I would say the unwritten rules of the NFL would make him responsible to ask the agent if he is still available to be signed. So it may or may not be on him if the agent lied to him, but you would have to figure Elway has more inside info into even our situation then we as fans would have. I don't know if this is something that can be proven unless another team would say that the agent called and said we have this deal agreed to but we want this. I think we are just best served by moving on and saying **** the donks.

So every gm should ask every agent if their client is available every time? The agent is the one out of line here. Elway had nothing to do with that.
Someone is going to sign Emmanuel and you expect Elway to say "nah, I'll forego a needed addition and let somEone else have him"?
This isn't high school.

**LoneWolf** · 03-16-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

BREAKING: Emmanuel Sanders also agreed to terms with the Wizards, Padres and Blackhawks last night.
— Rich Eisen (@richeisen) March 16, 2014

Do you read any other posts before you post shit? This has already been posted twice. You must get a paycheck from Twitter based on the amount of tweets you post on message boards.

FloridaMan88 · 03-16-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ping2000

You would love to think that this would put the Broncos in cap hell, but it never does. All the teams we hate seem to always have the cash to sign people and get decent free agents. Face it, we are second or third tier. It sucks.

Because for the Chiefs it is always a "process".

Always "building for the future", blah blah blah blah blah.

And the amazing thing is, despite witnessing this approach fail time and time again for 20+ years you have several intelligent people on this message board willing to defend it.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-16-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ping2000

You would love to think that this would put the Broncos in cap hell, but it never does. All the teams we hate seem to always have the cash to sign people and get decent free agents. Face it, we are second or third tier. It sucks.

I would be more than pleased if we continued to bring in a haul of free agents like Cooper, Parker, Sherman, Schwartz, Jordan, Avery, McGrath, Jenkins, and Abdullah through the second and third wave of free agency. That was a really strong haul. If Dorsey can start proving himself in the draft, which he hasn't yet, and he continues to find good value in the second and third wave, that's a pretty good strategy.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-16-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Do you read any other posts before you post shit? This has already been posted twice. You must get a paycheck from Twitter based on the amount of tweets you post on message boards.

3rd time a charm dumbass.

**Bowser** · 03-16-2014, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

So every gm should ask every agent if their client is available every time? The agent is the one out of line here. Elway had nothing to do with that.
Someone is going to sign Emmanuel and you expect Elway to say "nah, I'll forego a needed addition and let somEone else have him"?
This isn't high school.

So should the Broncos be the bigger guy in this scenario and forego their contract with Sanders, considering the circumstances surrounding him?

**LoneWolf** · 03-16-2014, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

So every gm should ask every agent if their client is available every time? The agent is the one out of line here. Elway had nothing to do with that.
Someone is going to sign Emmanuel and you expect Elway to say "nah, I'll forego a needed addition and let somEone else have him"?
This isn't high school.

No, you ****ing reerun. Once Elway found out that an agreement had been reached he should refuse to let Sanders sign his contract. Nobody is saying that during the actual negotiation between Elway and Sanders' agent that Elway was aware of the agreement between Sanders and KC.

FloridaMan88 · 03-16-2014, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

So every gm should ask every agent if their client is available every time? The agent is the one out of line here. Elway had nothing to do with that.
Someone is going to sign Emmanuel and you expect Elway to say "nah, I'll forego a needed addition and let somEone else have him"?
This isn't high school.

You are right, but there is no point trying to explain it here… certain people are as naive as the Chiefs in thinking how this process works.

Mother****erJones · 03-16-2014, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

So every gm should ask every agent if their client is available every time? The agent is the one out of line here. Elway had nothing to do with that.
Someone is going to sign Emmanuel and you expect Elway to say "nah, I'll forego a needed addition and let somEone else have him"?
This isn't high school.

and GTFO one who sucks the penis

vailpass · 03-16-2014, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Use your head. Maybe you can figure it out. You KNOW the reason or you wouldnt be here asking us to explain it to you. Your game's old dude. **** off!

Humor me, my head isn't working this early. Could you give me some facts?

milkman · 03-16-2014, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Not every team runs to the media to report their agreements. The fact that an agreement was reached between KC and Sander's agent isn't being disputed by anyone. In fact, it is being backed up by others outside the KC organization. Now that Denver is aware of this fact, if they actually let Sander's sign a contract then it is unethical on their part.

My question was directed at the negotiation aspect, and looking back, I realize I misread Simplicity's post, so my question was a mistake.

Mother****erJones · 03-16-2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

3rd time a charm dumbass.

Not this time.

FloridaMan88 · 03-16-2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

No, you ****ing reerun. Once Elway found out that an agreement had been reached he should refuse to let Sanders sign his contract. Nobody is saying that during the actual negotiation between Elway and Sanders' agent that Elway was aware of the agreement between Sanders and KC.

Why?

What does it benefit Elway to do that?

It isn't his concern that the Chiefs were getting played by Sanders agent.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 03-16-2014, 10:19 AM

I'm sure Archie will weigh the pros & cons. So his son will only be attached to an ethical organization.

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