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Old 04-05-2014, 07:40 AM  
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:29 AM   #631
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People said that about Carl because we had a huge history of his behavior to judge. He did, in fact, take vacations in Jamaica during the start of free agency.

I think it is as reasonable to be optimistic about Dorsey, rather than pessimistic.
I think both are reasonable.

Dorsey has never been a GM before. To place in trust in him, you are essentially trusting a complete unknown. There's nothing wrong with that. There's also nothing wrong with the opposite opinion.
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:36 AM   #632
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I'm not judging them nor am I trying to guess what they will do.

I'm merely saying that I don't have any hope in what they're doing. It's called human nature.



History justifies my opinion. You can deny it all you want but you'd be wrong.
You aren't judging them but you are saying that you have no hope whatsoever in anything that they do or say? Uh... I think that's called "judging."

History does not justify your position. You are merely a pessimist.
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:37 AM   #633
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I think both are reasonable.

Dorsey has never been a GM before. To place in trust in him, you are essentially trusting a complete unknown. There's nothing wrong with that. There's also nothing wrong with the opposite opinion.
I agree.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:25 AM   #634
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You aren't judging them but you are saying that you have no hope whatsoever in anything that they do or say? Uh... I think that's called "judging."

History does not justify your position. You are merely a pessimist.
Judgement is something that occurs based on the evidence of the past. Dorsey has no past. By definition, I'm not judging him.

As for whether or not I have hope, I don't have much hope for the CHIEFS. Dorsey is a somewhat innocent bystander, unfortunately. But I never said I have no hope in anything they do whatsoever. I like several of the moves they've made.

I'm just not hopeful they, or anybody else associated with the Chiefs, will ever win a Super Bowl.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:33 AM   #635
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When this team is getting pummeled by good quarterbacks because of the teams continued poor play from its safeties, just remember how many good ones were out there in free agency at every price point.

Want the best one in the NFL? Jarius Byrd signed for 9/yr
Want a second tier beast? TJ Ward signed for under 6/yr
Want a fantastic value? How about Clemons for dirt cheap...

When we are wishing we had more playmakers on offense, just remember how we didn't close the deal with Sanders and Desean Jackson signed for only 8/yr

When Jeff Allen still sucks, just remember we could have signed Evan Dietrich Smith for dirt cheap and moved Hudson to left guard.
IF you think we are truly a DeSean Jackson, jairus Byrd, and Dietrich Smith away from winning a Super Bowl in 2 or 3 years. Because your suggestion that we can get those guys and also rebuild for three years from now just because the cap is increasing is a huge stretch.

I think those guys make us better. But not so much that I am banking on that roster to win us a Super Bowl in an ultra small window.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:34 AM   #636
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Judgement is something that occurs based on the evidence of the past. Dorsey has no past. By definition, I'm not judging him.

As for whether or not I have hope, I don't have much hope for the CHIEFS. Dorsey is a somewhat innocent bystander, unfortunately. But I never said I have no hope in anything they do whatsoever. I like several of the moves they've made.

I'm just not hopeful they, or anybody else associated with the Chiefs, will ever win a Super Bowl.
And you're going to keep reiterating it on the internets till the end of time because you really don't care. You just sit still and I'll call for your waaaaambulance.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:57 AM   #637
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And you're going to keep reiterating it on the internets till the end of time because you really don't care. You just sit still and I'll call for your waaaaambulance.
Looks like you should call one for yourself.

Christ, don't people know how to discuss anything anymore?

Seems like conversations can't go 5 minutes without shit like this.
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:02 AM   #638
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And you're going to keep reiterating it on the internets till the end of time because you really don't care. You just sit still and I'll call for your waaaaambulance.
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:29 AM   #639
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Looks like you should call one for yourself.

Christ, don't people know how to discuss anything anymore?

Seems like conversations can't go 5 minutes without shit like this.
5 minutes? I've been reading this drivel for days/weeks/months.
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:35 AM   #641
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5 minutes? I've been reading this drivel for days/weeks/months.
Then don't read it.

I would have thought you better than trying to squash other people's opinions.
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:36 AM   #642
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5 minutes? I've been reading this drivel for days/weeks/months.
Hell, I didn't know that constantly stating you have no faith whatsoever that anyone in the Chiefs organization has the skill or desire to ever win a Super Bowl was classified as discussion.
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5 minutes? I've been reading this drivel for days/weeks/months.
I mostly just skim for for a good rant or funny quips.
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