Gas on the Fire: Shutdown Corner Gives Chiefs "F" in FA.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins

This is why it's so important to have a difference maker at QB.

They are good deodorant for otherwise powerful stink.

So true.

The fact is, outside of Rodgers, the receivers, and Clay Matthews, the Pack's drafts have been pretty damn smelly.

And we are relying on the guy who had been heading that scouting department to change our draft fortunes.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by milkman

So true.

The fact is, outside of Rodgers, the receivers, and Clay Matthews, the Pack's drafts have been pretty damn smelly.

And we are relying on the guy who had been heading that scouting department to change our draft fortunes.

I go step back, I want Dorsey to be GB Dorsey, but I want KC trainers to be SEA trainers.

Find guys with skills, but don't rely on those skills, HONE those skills. 'Richard Sherman wasn't born, Richard Sherman BECAME!!' That's not a sexy slogan, but it should be the 'fight club' slogan of every successful team concept out there.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I think this is all the downside of parity. Parity is a HUGE part of what makes the NFL so great, compelling games week-in, week-out. But parity also means that even shitty teams are pretty damn good.

For as bad as we had it last year with a Jeckyl Hyde defense and a meltdown in the playoffs, imagine being a Packer fan, they are a blessed franchise, a model franchise, but one arm going up to Aaron Rodger's collarbone and they're INSTANTLY a middle of the road ho-hum team playing out the string, they had to know right away.

Same with us, after the 2011 string of ACLs, we breathe a sigh of relief. That was a fluke, that'll never happen again. Then we see what even minor irritations for Hali and Houston mean for us this past year.

Every single game in the NFL, there are things that happen off screen that, if a savvier set of players recognized it, would have resulted in vastly different outcomes. Some of the most moribund offenses in the league just plain fail to see free-running WRs open for TDs, or flailing OLmen whose deficits aren't being exploited.

The key these days is keeping healthy and having quality depth.

This is what made the Seahawks so exciting to watch throughout the playoffs. Were they the most dominant at every position in the history of the league, no. But they were the best at maximizing positives and minimizing negatives. Is this guy a ferocious playmaker? No, then have him occupy a player in space and let the playmakers make plays elsewhere. They weren't the '854 Bears, . . . but they looked like it because they met power with power and let weakness hide over with weakness.

I've said it before and I'll say it again here, an NFL team is like a naturally aspirated, carburetor fueled engine. One thing gets out of whack and the entire feedback loop is disrupted and the whole machine runs like dog shit. We have a lot of quality players who, if the MACHINE is running clean can rape faces, on O and on D. But you slow down the pass rush 1 millisecond and now you're relying on your FS to keep it all together and his dog shit rises to the surface and the entire swamp looks like a pile of dog shit. Alex can led a well oiled offense, but let Bowe have a few drops, or some of our less savvy WRs run bullshit routes, or barely concuss our best RB and take our 2nd best RB out with injury as well, and we're running the O with a Yugo power plant.

That's the way i see it too. Unless you have a hall of fame elite QB, you better have a deep supporting cast. I can understand the frustration that we brought in the QB let without that supporting cast. But think we are gambling if we want to go all in like this. We are barely in the conversation at full strength let alone with key injuries.

I grew to like Smith a bit more. But he is more of a Flacco type. He needs help on both sides of the ball in ways Peyton does not.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I think this is all the downside of parity. Parity is a HUGE part of what makes the NFL so great, compelling games week-in, week-out. But parity also means that even shitty teams are pretty damn good.

For as bad as we had it last year with a Jeckyl Hyde defense and a meltdown in the playoffs, imagine being a Packer fan, they are a blessed franchise, a model franchise, but one arm going up to Aaron Rodger's collarbone and they're INSTANTLY a middle of the road ho-hum team playing out the string, they had to know right away.

Same with us, after the 2011 string of ACLs, we breathe a sigh of relief. That was a fluke, that'll never happen again. Then we see what even minor irritations for Hali and Houston mean for us this past year.

Every single game in the NFL, there are things that happen off screen that, if a savvier set of players recognized it, would have resulted in vastly different outcomes. Some of the most moribund offenses in the league just plain fail to see free-running WRs open for TDs, or flailing OLmen whose deficits aren't being exploited.

The key these days is keeping healthy and having quality depth.

This is what made the Seahawks so exciting to watch throughout the playoffs. Were they the most dominant at every position in the history of the league, no. But they were the best at maximizing positives and minimizing negatives. Is this guy a ferocious playmaker? No, then have him occupy a player in space and let the playmakers make plays elsewhere. They weren't the '854 Bears, . . . but they looked like it because they met power with power and let weakness hide over with weakness.

I've said it before and I'll say it again here, an NFL team is like a naturally aspirated, carburetor fueled engine. One thing gets out of whack and the entire feedback loop is disrupted and the whole machine runs like dog shit. We have a lot of quality players who, if the MACHINE is running clean can rape faces, on O and on D. But you slow down the pass rush 1 millisecond and now you're relying on your FS to keep it all together and his dog shit rises to the surface and the entire swamp looks like a pile of dog shit. Alex can led a well oiled offense, but let Bowe have a few drops, or some of our less savvy WRs run bullshit routes, or barely concuss our best RB and take our 2nd best RB out with injury as well, and we're running the O with a Yugo power plant.

This was an excellent post.

[Hammock Parties]

It's just weird. Going to a Chiefs game feels like going to Six Flags now. It's like a theme park for barbecue and gallows humor. SEE the latest episode in the Tragedy of Arrowhead!

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins

It's just weird. Going to a Chiefs game feels like going to Six Flags now. It's like a theme park for barbecue and gallows humor. SEE the latest episode in the Tragedy of Arrowhead!

Back in the 90's even though we were pretty sure we weren't going to a SB we knew we had a team that could beat anyone. The best teams in the league would come to Arrowhead and lose.

That's not the case now. These days we're lucky to sweep a 6-10 Raiders team...

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

That's not very Sporting of you.

I see what you did there!!!!

Well no... I'm just a fan... and not a soccer player..

[Easy 6]

Have we signed anyone lately?... no?

Whens the draft again?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by temper11

This was an excellent post.

One of the best takes I have seen on the board in a while. Finally a realistic take about the current NFL.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by SNR

The idea is you get those guys now in free agnecy, and that lets you draft purely for BPA. It goes hand in hand with your draft strategy to stock up on as much talent as possible. And in doing so, you cut dead weight every year and replace it with those draft picks. It means that next year you cut guys like Daniel, Flowers, and Fasano. If you drafted right, you might even be able to save money on letting go of a Sean Smith or Mike DeVito. If you're REALLY doing it right, Tamba Hali would also get let go. And that's how you afford to keep Berry, Houston, and Alex Smith.

No, the system isn't perfect. You're going to get some sour picks and sour free agents, but the key is it grants flexibility. That's the most important part. For example, let's say we signed TJ Ward. That means there is less pressure on us to take a Calvin Pryor at 23 when potentially a player like Eric Ebron drops to our spot. Or Mike Evans. Or Darqueze Dennard. Or ****... perhaps even Teddy Bridgewater. The draft is fully of unexpected surprises, and in a deep class like this one, there will be several players that we're shocked to see still available.

If you take care of pressing needs in free agency, that means there's no pressure to take need into account when making your choices. It's the difference between the Chiefs taking Xavier Suo'Filo because they have to and taking Dee Ford or Rashede Hageman because they WANT to.

Totally agree with this, the judicious import of young, proven free agents to fill starting spot needs gives you so much much more leeway in the draft, while almost guaranteeing a high level of production at those starting spots... it simply allows a team to be creative in the draft.

One TJ Ward signing has a domino effect on the entire team and draft process... not even one real difference maker this year, I still don't get it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by scott free

Totally agree with this, the judicious import of young, proven free agents to fill starting spot needs gives you so much much more leeway in the draft, while almost guaranteeing a high level of production at those starting spots... it simply allows a team to be creative in the draft.

One TJ Ward signing has a domino effect on the entire team and draft process... not even one real difference maker this year, I still don't get it.

What gives you the most leeway is walking into the draft believing you can take anybody, even if you have a starter already at that position. If you sign TJ Ward and send the message that you're trying to "win now" then you just took Safety off your draft board and are now forced to target a draft pick who is ready to start right away. That means drafting a safe pick and pigeonholing yourself to filling a few positions of need, versus walking into the draft with an open mind.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

OK, so your statement about getting depth through the draft was false then...

Yes and no. The draft is still the best place to get it. Low priced scrap pile works too. I just think the draft is more reliable about finding guys who are depth today, but could be developed into future starters while costing your team pennies. The Chiefs did well last year with the scrap pile. But I think you should come to expect more McGraths and Parkers than Marcus Coopers and Anthony Shermans.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What gives you the most leeway is walking into the draft believing you can take anybody, even if you have a starter already at that position. If you sign TJ Ward and send the message that you're trying to "win now" then you just took Safety off your draft board and are now forced to target a draft pick who is ready to start right away. That means drafting a safe pick and pigeonholing yourself to filling a few positions of need, versus walking into the draft with an open mind.

You have this backwards.

This team has 2 major holes.
Ignoring free agency means you have to go into this draft targeting those holes.

[Hammock Parties]

Also, criticizing the Chiefs and trying to be funny about it is also getting old.

You can only say the same thing so many different ways.

So the alternate way we're trying to have fun with the Chiefs is also becoming less fun.

We would have to go to another level of inception with our fandom to actually be legitimate fans if this shit continues for another era.

WE ALL NEED OUR ****ING MINDS WIPED

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by milkman

You have this backwards.

This team has 2 major holes.
Ignoring free agency means you have to go into this draft targeting those holes.

Bingo.

If we had signed TJ Ward/Clemons, Evan-Deitrich Smith and Emmanuel Sanders, the draft would be like a bonus.

Those 3 signings would have been easy to make happen, too.

Convert Hali and Bowes base salaries to bonuses and lets roll.

But, no.

We sat on our hands and waited for other tams we are "competing with" to bolster their already superior rosters while we play the "next year" game AGAIN.

Very aggravating.