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View Poll Results: Which QB will be the best pro?
Manziel 24 23.08%
Bortles 20 19.23%
Carr 16 15.38%
Bridgewater 27 25.96%
Garrapolo 4 3.85%
Someone else 13 12.50%
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:24 AM  
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Which QB will be the best pro?
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Old 05-08-2014, 02:51 PM   #46
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Not all of Vick's physical tools were superior. Outside of pure arm strength, Manziel is a better passer.

And you can't just throw out the mental makeup as if it's insignificant. What is between his ears is easily what separates Manziel from all of the other QBs in this draft, both good and bad.

Finally, he's not just a scrambling QB.

I find it very funny that so many here spend so much energy propping up Alex Smith while simultaneously tearing down Manziel. Tells me they didn't know much about Smith before he came to KC, didn't watch Manziel much in college, or a combination of both.
Using Alex Smith to sell Johnny would appear to be a losing strategy. Otherwise, I agree.
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Old 05-08-2014, 02:52 PM   #47
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Manziel missed a crap ton of wide open receivers in college and he doesn't have the speed to make up for it in the pros.
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Old 05-08-2014, 02:56 PM   #48
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:03 PM   #49
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Using Alex Smith to sell Johnny would appear to be a losing strategy. Otherwise, I agree.
Coming out of college, Alex Smith had many of the same flaws that Manziel has. In fact, Smith was coming out of an Urban Meyer system, the same system that everybody's favorite whipping boy Tim Tebow came out of.

Outside of a handful of people, nobody here knows a damn thing about Alex Smith's first few years in San Francisco, let alone what kind of player he was at Utah.

But of course, he's the Chiefs QB now, so he's the awesome.
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:06 PM   #50
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:25 PM   #51
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:27 PM   #52
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Manziel missed a crap ton of wide open receivers in college and he doesn't have the speed to make up for it in the pros.
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Yeah, that Joe Nammath guy sure did suck.
Namath had 2 or 3 good seasons, but was actually pretty mediocre for the majority of his career.

He made his reputation with SB III, which was won on essentially 2 big plays and defense.

Fran Tarkenton was actually a much better QB, which leads me to my next point.

Johnny Manziel, to me, looks like he has the tools to play like the love child of Tarkenton and Drew Brees.

He's a much better pocket passer than given credit for, and the athletic ability to extend plays in the same manner that Tarkenton did.

I think this kid is going to successful, and really exciting to watch.
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:44 PM   #54
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I think Manziel is going to flame out brilliantly.
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:47 PM   #55
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I think Manziel is going to flame out brilliantly.
Possible.

One thing I do believe is that there won't be any middle ground.

He'll either shine or flame out brilliantly.
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Namath had 2 or 3 good seasons, but was actually pretty mediocre for the majority of his career.

He made his reputation with SB III, which was won on essentially 2 big plays and defense.

Fran Tarkenton was actually a much better QB, which leads me to my next point.

Johnny Manziel, to me, looks like he has the tools to play like the love child of Tarkenton and Drew Brees.

He's a much better pocket passer than given credit for, and the athletic ability to extend plays in the same manner that Tarkenton did.

I think this kid is going to successful, and really exciting to watch.
Exactly how I see it. With the right coaching, he could be really special.
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Possible.

One thing I do believe is that there won't be any middle ground.

He'll either shine or flame out brilliantly.
Agree with this too.
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Old 05-08-2014, 04:17 PM   #58
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I can see how coaches and GM's apparently feel bout Manziel. Someone said it on twitter brilliantly

"I'd love to watch him play poker, just not with my money".
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Old 05-08-2014, 04:22 PM   #59
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Its hard for me to not pick Manziel, the guy came up aces in the biggest game of his last year in college... that comeback bowl win was veeery impressive.

Plan B would be McCarron.
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If Carr can learn to stay calm in the pocket (I have my doubts) he's got great tools.
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