Brandon Flowers done

[OldSchool]

Just want to say thanks to the Hunt family for the 6years in Kansas City thanks to the fans and my teammates for some great years.

— Brandon Flowers (@BFlowers24) June 13, 2014

Sounds like Brandon Flowers has just been traded or released.

— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

Sounds like Brandon Flowers is out. Stay tuned

— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) June 13, 2014

Detroit - a rumored destination for Brandon Flowers - just released Chris Houston, too.

— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

The #Chiefs have announced they’ve released cornerback Brandon Flowers.

— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) June 13, 2014

Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
Related: Texans, Chiefs
Jun 13 - 3:04 PM

Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.

He's a Charger now.

[nychief]

It is a pragmatic financial move that will hurt for a bit. Just losing his leadership etc... That being said, had to be done. Our cap situation is bad, and we have to do some housecleaning.

[saphojunkie]

I really liked Flowers as a player. And I in no way wanted us to release him, but I understand the parameters. The fact remains that we need to extend Justin Houston (if we want to win longterm) and we need to extend Alex Smith (if we want to win this year and next).

We might be able to find a QB to replace Smith in a couple years, but that guy is not on the roster nor available in free agency right now. So, if we don't want another 4-12 season - and I, for one, don't - then we need to keep Smith around. And I know people want to say that we just let Smith play out his contract, then either franchise tag him or let Bray/Murray take over.

But sorry... QB doesn't work that way. For the first time since Vermeil, we actually have our HC/QB combination in place. you don't mess around with that, because it will literally affect the entire team chemistry. You can ditch a starting CB and the team won't suffer for it. Start messing with the QB position or getting too cute... and shit will fall apart.

Cutting Flowers opens up a little more cap room to extend two vital players.

I'm not happy about it, but I understand.

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

You don't seem aware of this, but KC keeps changing coaches and that always reboots the build process.

Seattle, unlike KC, was smart enough to fire a shitty coach after one season and hired a brilliant guy that most of the folks around here would have thrown a temper tantrum had we hired him. We gave Herm three, Haley two, and Crennel one. Seattle booted the guy who didn't perform... we gave them jobs for six seasons.

Exactly. There's a lot to criticize and question regarding this offseason but, only a ****ing reerun blames a current GM for the previous GMs mistakes.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I really liked Flowers as a player. And I in no way wanted us to release him, but I understand the parameters. The fact remains that we need to extend Justin Houston (if we want to win longterm) and we need to extend Alex Smith (if we want to win this year and next).

We might be able to find a QB to replace Smith in a couple years, but that guy is not on the roster nor available in free agency right now. So, if we don't want another 4-12 season - and I, for one, don't - then we need to keep Smith around. And I know people want to say that we just let Smith play out his contract, then either franchise tag him or let Bray/Murray take over.

But sorry... QB doesn't work that way. For the first time since Vermeil, we actually have our HC/QB combination in place. you don't mess around with that, because it will literally affect the entire team chemistry. You can ditch a starting CB and the team won't suffer for it. Start messing with the QB position or getting too cute... and shit will fall apart.

Cutting Flowers opens up a little more cap room to extend two vital players.

I'm not happy about it, but I understand.

Pretty much how I feel about it. Of course I could also complain about how Pioli ridiculously back loaded his and Hali's contracts making it unfeasible to keep both of them... especially since it was done at a time when KC was swimming in cap space.

If one feels you have to choose between letting Flowers or Hali walk, I'm letting Flowers go 100% of the time. I just think it's stupid that the two of them were taking up so much space later on in the contracts when we had like 30 million in space when we signed them.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Exactly. There's a lot to criticize and question regarding this offseason but, only a ****ing reerun blames a current GM for the previous GMs mistakes.

I also think those coaching changes prohibited any kind of continuity or momentum. This team needed a coach that could bring consistent success, and I think that is exactly what we found in Reid.

Dorsey is rebuilding, sure, but I like that he didn't just blow the team up in order to do it. Next year there will be another veteran who is replaced or released, and we'll have this discussion all over again.

My money is on either Tamba or Derrick Johnson.

The thing we need more than anything else right now is for last year's draft picks to actually ****ing play and contribute. A successful Fisher, Commings, Kelce, and Davis will go a long way toward taking the pressure off Dorsey.

[Sannyasi]

Originally Posted by Rausch

It's a piss poor job done.

You can disagree.

That's fine.

We'll all see the results this season...

The move wasn't about this season. I just can't see the controversy on this one. If you can get rid of a shitty 3rd CB and save 7.5 million dollars, why wouldn't you do it?

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Sannyasi

The move wasn't about this season. I just can't see the controversy on this one. If you can get rid of a shitty 3rd CB and save 7.5 million dollars, why wouldn't you do it?

purging talent, regardless of position, has a negative effect on any team. It's obvious to me that Flowers is somewhat of a controversial figure to kc fans. Not too long ago many here claimed he was a top 10 CB. Now all of a sudden, he sucks. Maybe he was misused under the current coaching staff, but that's on the coaching staff, not Flowers. Regardless, kc's CB talent is severely lacking.

[Sannyasi]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

purging talent, regardless of position, has a negative effect on any team. It's obvious to me that Flowers is somewhat of a controversial figure to kc fans. Not too long ago many here claimed he was a top 10 CB. Now all of a sudden, he sucks. Maybe he was misused under the current coaching staff, but that's on the coaching staff, not Flowers. Regardless, kc's CB talent is severely lacking.

Talent in the secondary is lacking with or without Flowers. He was a top 10 CB at his peak, but he's been declining for a couple years now and was a liability last season to the point where he lost his job to a scrap heap rookie.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Sannyasi

Talent in the secondary is lacking with or without Flowers. He was a top 10 CB at his peak, but he's been declining for a couple years now and was a liability last season to the point where he lost his job to a scrap heap rookie.

He didn't lose his job.

If you think he did, you don't understand football. He was the starting CB all season. He moved inside on sub packages because the guy we signed for that role failed (Robinson) and Cooper was in no way ready for that role in the slot. It's the hardest spot to cover out of.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

He didn't lose his job.

If you think he did, you don't understand football. He was the starting CB all season. He moved inside on sub packages because the guy we signed for that role failed (Robinson) and Cooper was in no way ready for that role in the slot. It's the hardest spot to cover out of.

That's why slot corners are paid the most . . . oh wait.

[Meatloaf]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I really liked Flowers as a player. And I in no way wanted us to release him, but I understand the parameters. The fact remains that we need to extend Justin Houston (if we want to win longterm) and we need to extend Alex Smith (if we want to win this year and next).

We might be able to find a QB to replace Smith in a couple years, but that guy is not on the roster nor available in free agency right now. So, if we don't want another 4-12 season - and I, for one, don't - then we need to keep Smith around. And I know people want to say that we just let Smith play out his contract, then either franchise tag him or let Bray/Murray take over.

But sorry... QB doesn't work that way. For the first time since Vermeil, we actually have our HC/QB combination in place. you don't mess around with that, because it will literally affect the entire team chemistry. You can ditch a starting CB and the team won't suffer for it. Start messing with the QB position or getting too cute... and shit will fall apart.

Cutting Flowers opens up a little more cap room to extend two vital players.

I'm not happy about it, but I understand.

Nice post Sapho.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

cooper, and aj Jenkins have elite celings.



Fisher, knile Davis, Commings, Dee ford, Phillip Gaines, also have elite ceilings. They are all physical specimens, in some sort. I doubt they will ever reach said ceilings, but the potential is there.

Come on, dude.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

cooper, and aj Jenkins have elite celings.

Fisher, knile Davis, Commings, Dee ford, Phillip Gaines, also have elite ceilings. They are all physical specimens, in some sort. I doubt they will ever reach said ceilings, but the potential is there.

Jenkins has 8 catches in 2 seasons. You might want to lower his ceiling until he gets up off the floor.

Just sayin'

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by -King-

Why? The Chiefs could easily get someone to do what Flowers did last season. Be as good as Flowers in his prime? Probably not, but Flowers isn't in his prime anymore and doesn't fit in this defense. Team is no worse without him than they were last year.
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Dudes 28 yup washed up way past his prime.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by notorious

The only way to get a consistent winner is with a QB.

We have that. No excuse. If they are as bad as some of you slapdicks are saying it's an absolute failure.