PFF on our OL

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Bowe isn't garbage. Charles isn't garbage.

Both of them were here before Reid and Dorsey arrived.

My point is, they gave up premium draft picks to get Smith.

They should be similarly willing to give up assets to get Smith some help. Banking on a bunch of late rounders and Eric Fisher is silly.

I like the Dee Ford pick but if they don't get him on the field and instead are just putting him in the bank until next year when he replaces Hali, that's yet another misappropriation of resources.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Both of them were here before Reid and Dorsey arrived.

My point is, they gave up premium draft picks to get Smith.

They should be similarly willing to give up assets to get Smith some help. Banking on a bunch of late rounders and Eric Fisher is silly.

I like the Dee Ford pick but if they don't get him on the field and instead are just putting him in the bank until next year when he replaces Hali, that's yet another misappropriation of resources.

I really liked the Fasano signing. He's a nice blocker and has good hands for the most part. It's coincidence that he rarely got hurt in his entire career until last year though.
I think we'll like the TE position with Kelce and Fasano (and Harris). I don't have a big problem with the weapons they've surrounded Alex with, but the OL is very concerning to me.
No way is keeping Albert a good idea unless you want to let Houston go.

You can't fix every problem in 2 offseasons. What should disappoint you is Stephenson and Allen looking like absolute trash. High draft picks like that shouldn't be struggling like this in year 3.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I really liked the Fasano signing. He's a nice blocker and has good hands for the most part. It's coincidence that he rarely got hurt in his entire career until last year though. I think we'll like the TE position with Kelce and Fasano (and Harris).

Fasano would be a nice #2 TE. He's not a #1. In him and Kelce, you potentially have two complimentary guys and no actual standout. We can hope about Kelce though. I don't pay much mind to Harris. He looks like one of those guys that will never see the field. All hype, no substance.

Originally Posted by RunKC

No way is keeping Albert a good idea unless you want to let Houston go.

They didn't HAVE to draft Fisher to let Albert go. There were other possible solutions. Drafting Fisher 1.1 and then having him suck puts them in a deep hole. Even if Alex Smith is BETTER than they thought he could be, it might amount to nothing if they're biggest, and arguably most important, draft pick is a failure.

Originally Posted by RunKC

You can't fix every problem in 2 offseasons. What should disappoint you is Stephenson and Allen looking like absolute trash. High draft picks like that shouldn't be struggling like this in year 3.

Part of the reason Allen and Stephenson might be struggling is because we're changing systems and schemes AGAIN. There's been no continuity on this line, in terms of personnel or scheme, and that hurts them. I've talked to Casey Wiegmann many times and he's always said the #1 factor in the success and/or failure of an offensive line is cohesion. This line has none. This is another area where drafting Fisher, inserting him at RT for a season, and then shuffling him to the other side (forcing Stephenson to move) may have done more harm than good.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Fasano would be a nice #2 TE. He's not a #1. In him and Kelce, you potentially have two complimentary guys and no actual standout. We can hope about Kelce though. I don't pay much mind to Harris. He looks like one of those guys that will never see the field. All hype, no substance.



They didn't HAVE to draft Fisher to let Albert go. There were other possible solutions. Drafting Fisher 1.1 and then having him suck puts them in a deep hole. Even if Alex Smith is BETTER than they thought he could be, it might amount to nothing if they're biggest, and arguably most important, draft pick is a failure.



Part of the reason Allen and Stephenson might be struggling is because we're changing systems and schemes AGAIN. There's been no continuity on this line, in terms of personnel or scheme, and that hurts them. I've talked to Casey Wiegmann many times and he's always said the #1 factor in the success and/or failure of an offensive line is cohesion. This line has none. This is another area where drafting Fisher, inserting him at RT for a season, and then shuffling him to the other side (forcing Stephenson to move) may have done more harm than good.

There were no other options to letting Albert go. Don't even bring up Stephenson at LT bc he looked way worse than Fisher the other night.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

There were no other options to letting Albert go. Don't even bring up Stephenson at LT bc he looked way worse than Fisher the other night.

He was playing out of position. Stephenson is a natural left tackle and probably would have been a 1st round pick if he had stayed in school. Unlike Fisher, we have actual games where we watched him play well at LT.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

He was playing out of position. Stephenson is a natural left tackle and probably would have been a 1st round pick if he had stayed in school. Unlike Fisher, we have actual games where we watched him play well at LT.

No way. Stephenson got pushed back into Alex all night. That's not a position problem. That's a strength problem

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

No way. Stephenson got pushed back into Alex all night. That's not a position problem. That's a strength problem

So the most-used excuse for Fisher isn't valid for Stephenson?

Interesting.

By the way, we have actual observational experience of Stephenson playing LEFT tackle at an adequate level. Sunday's preseason game means less than nothing in this conversation. It's completely irrelevant.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by RunKC

There were no other options to letting Albert go. Don't even bring up Stephenson at LT bc he looked way worse than Fisher the other night.

Stephenson looked solid all of last year.

Fisher hasn't looked solid for more than one game...