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Direckshun · 10-22-2014, 03:16 AM

Shall we.

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The Week in Overreactions: Alex Smith is more than a game manager
By Ryan Wilson | CBSSports.com
October 21, 2014 8:16 am ET

Alex Smith isn't a game manager

It's easy -- and, frankly, lazy -- to categorize Alex Smith as a game manager because that appeared to be his ceiling early in his career. Some of those growing pains can be attributed to youth (he came into the league as a fresh-faced 20-year-old), expectations that come with being the first-overall pick in the 2005 draft, and landing on a bad 49ers team that had six different offensive coordinators in Smith's first six seasons.

That's the definition of setting someone up to fail. And while the perception of Smith didn't change once coach Jim Harbaugh arrived in 2011, the reality was that he became a more complete player.

• In 54 games (50 starts) from 2005-2010, Smith completed 57 percent of his passes (6.2 YPA) with 51 touchdowns and 53 interceptions.

• In 2011-2012 under Harbaugh, Smith played in 26 games (25 starts) completed 64 percent of his passes (7.4 YPA) with 30 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.

• And in a season and a half with the Chiefs and Andy Reid, Smith has started all 21 games, completing 62 percent of his passes (6.6 YPA) with 32 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.

We've been as guilty as anyone as taking Smith's accomplishments for granted, even regularly referring to him as "a bridge quarterback" to whomever is pegged as the next face of the franchise in Kansas City. But he's proven to be much, much more than that. We saw it in last season's playoff loss to the Colts, when he was 30 of 46 for 378 yards, with four touchdowns and no interceptions.

We saw it again in Week 4 when Smith completed 20 of 26 passes for 248 yards, with three touchdowns and no interceptions as the Chiefs throttled the Patriots, 41-14. And we were reminded once again on Sunday in San Diego when Smith, who has long been criticized for his inability to play from behind, did just that.

He led the Chiefs on a late-fourth-quarter, eight-play, 62-yard drive that began on their 8-yard line, and included a nine-yard scramble and passes of 19, 16 and eight yards to set up Cairo Santos' 48-yard field goal.

It wasn't spectacular but that's not Smith's game. (And when did spectacular equate to franchise savior, anyway? Jay Cutler has plenty of "spectacular" plays on his highlight reel but he's regularly played some truly awful football.)

According to Football Outsiders, Smith ranks 15th among all quarterbacks this season, ahead of Tom Brady, Carson Palmer and Ben Roethlisberger, but his steady-as-she-goes approach fits nicely with what Reid wants to do offensively. And even if it means fewer big plays down the field, it's hard to argue with the results; the Chiefs started 9-0 last season before finishing 11-5. And after an 0-2 start this season, they have won three of four, their only loss an eminently winnable game in San Francisco in Week 5. And this all comes after the Chiefs, prior to Reid and Smith's arrival, won a grand total of two games in 2012.

When Smith signed a four-year, $68 million extension just before the season, our only reservation was that it would mean the Chiefs would put off finding their next young quarterback. But at 30 years old, he's entering his NFL prime; there's no reason to rush him off the field. In fact, he could be the key to helping the Chiefs to back-to-back winning seasons for the first time since 2005-2006.

Sandy Vagina · 10-23-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Prove it. Show me where Bowe doesn't run his routes like Moss used to do. Or how about where Bowe isn't blocking for people. Prove it or shut the **** up. You continue to talk like you know ANYTHING about this team. You know about Alex Smith and that's it. I would take penbrook as a ****ing poster here over you. I'd rather listen to Roy....

blah blah, you know you are asking me to prove that which can not truly be proven..

I do believe that Bowe blocks hard on most plays. His routes are too often slow and lazy... his effort to high-point (attack) a football? lacking... his focus, lacking. Every play? no. Too many plays? yes.

That's just my honest assessment. I have no problem whatsoever if you disagree with it... no need to be a bitch about it though.

**The Franchise** · 10-23-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

blah blah, you know you are asking me to prove that which can not truly be proven..

I do believe that Bowe blocks hard on most plays. His routes are too often slow and lazy... his effort to high-point (attack) a football? lacking... his focus, lacking. Every play? no. Too many plays? yes.

That's just my honest assessment. I have no problem whatsoever if you disagree with it... no need to be a bitch about it though.

So you can't....like I expected. Go to Warpaint. You're welcome over there.

O.city · 10-23-2014, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

So you can't....like I expected. Go to Warpaint. You're welcome over there.

Just out them on ignore, it's way easier

Sandy Vagina · 10-23-2014, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

So you can't....like I expected. Go to Warpaint. You're welcome over there.

Speak about the topic, or simply GFY elsewhere, asshole.

**The Franchise** · 10-23-2014, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Speak about the topic, or simply GFY elsewhere, asshole.

I am, dipshit. You spout bullshit and then have nothing to back it up.

temper11 · 10-23-2014, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Prove it. Show me where Bowe doesn't run his routes like Moss used to do. Or how about where Bowe isn't blocking for people. Prove it or shut the **** up. You continue to talk like you know ANYTHING about this team. You know about Alex Smith and that's it. I would take penbook as a ****ing poster here over you. I'd rather listen to Roy....

Actually I think Bowe is one of the better blocking WR's that I've ever seen. I really can't explain that as that is absolutely thankless effort.

Sandy Vagina · 10-23-2014, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Just out them on ignore, it's way easier

hehe, pussy... GOOD... you do that.

Sandy Vagina · 10-23-2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I am, dipshit. You spout bullshit and then have nothing to back it up.

You are asking me to prove something that can not be proven, stupid. Now you want to act as if "you won" because something that can't be proven isn't being proven.

O.city · 10-23-2014, 05:10 PM

Seriously, I can send you the major ignore link. It's great. It's as if Sandy Cheeks doesn't exist.

temper11 · 10-23-2014, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I am, dipshit. You spout bullshit and then have nothing to back it up.

Like your favorite "Smith shit's his pants in the pocket". Good solid hard fact there.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-23-2014, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Pure ****ing speculation.

And complete horseshit.

If he hadn't become a KC fan in the last few months, he'd know that people have said this shit about Bowe from the day he was drafted.

**The Franchise** · 10-23-2014, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

You are asking me to prove something that can not be proven, stupid. Now you want to act as if "you won" because something that can't be proven isn't being proven.

If I claimed that Randy Moss quit on plays.....it can be proven. Dwayne Bowe? You can't prove it. You can't provide one ****ing image....one ****ing video of him quitting on a route or mailing it in.

Go take your own life.

temper11 · 10-23-2014, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Seriously, I can send you the major ignore link. It's great. It's as if Sandy Cheeks doesn't exist.

come on guys... don't take your ball and go home. it's ok to not agree on shit.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-23-2014, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Bowe has 27 targets this year. He's averaging 14 yards per catch.

He needs more targets

But he's dropped the ball three times in six games.

I mean, what QB can trust a WR when he drops the ball that much?

Coogs · 10-23-2014, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Had he made the play I'm talking about, none of this is necessary.

It's shit like this that really pisses some off here. We can't even discuss a play or what should or shouldn't have happened without excuses and some ****ing reason we shouldn't/can't talk about a play.

He made plays on the final drive. Great for him. It's awesome to see. But he ****ed up on a drive that could have essentially ended the game.

By the same token, if he completes the pass to Fasano, we probably are not discussing this play.

Or, more than likely, if he throws the ball down the field to Jenkins and the pass is incomplete... And then Rivers leads the Bolts down the field to a game winning TD... this very same play is pulled up and everyone is blasting Smith for not making the first down pass to Fasano or Bowe.

And if not that, they would be blasting Reid for his game clock management skills.

It's just the way things are here.

But none of that played out, and we won in San Diego. I for one am happy about that!

10-22-2014, 03:16 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Let's do the Alex Smith thing again. Shall we. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...a-game-manager The Week in Overreactions: Alex Smith is more than a game manager By Ryan Wilson \| CBSSports.com October 21, 2014 8:16 am ET Alex Smith isn't a game manager It's easy -- and, frankly, lazy -- to categorize Alex Smith as a game manager because that appeared to be his ceiling early in his career. Some of those growing pains can be attributed to youth (he came into the league as a fresh-faced 20-year-old), expectations that come with being the first-overall pick in the 2005 draft, and landing on a bad 49ers team that had six different offensive coordinators in Smith's first six seasons. That's the definition of setting someone up to fail. And while the perception of Smith didn't change once coach Jim Harbaugh arrived in 2011, the reality was that he became a more complete player. • In 54 games (50 starts) from 2005-2010, Smith completed 57 percent of his passes (6.2 YPA) with 51 touchdowns and 53 interceptions. • In 2011-2012 under Harbaugh, Smith played in 26 games (25 starts) completed 64 percent of his passes (7.4 YPA) with 30 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. • And in a season and a half with the Chiefs and Andy Reid, Smith has started all 21 games, completing 62 percent of his passes (6.6 YPA) with 32 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. We've been as guilty as anyone as taking Smith's accomplishments for granted, even regularly referring to him as "a bridge quarterback" to whomever is pegged as the next face of the franchise in Kansas City. But he's proven to be much, much more than that. We saw it in last season's playoff loss to the Colts, when he was 30 of 46 for 378 yards, with four touchdowns and no interceptions. We saw it again in Week 4 when Smith completed 20 of 26 passes for 248 yards, with three touchdowns and no interceptions as the Chiefs throttled the Patriots, 41-14. And we were reminded once again on Sunday in San Diego when Smith, who has long been criticized for his inability to play from behind, did just that. He led the Chiefs on a late-fourth-quarter, eight-play, 62-yard drive that began on their 8-yard line, and included a nine-yard scramble and passes of 19, 16 and eight yards to set up Cairo Santos' 48-yard field goal. It wasn't spectacular but that's not Smith's game. (And when did spectacular equate to franchise savior, anyway? Jay Cutler has plenty of "spectacular" plays on his highlight reel but he's regularly played some truly awful football.) According to Football Outsiders, Smith ranks 15th among all quarterbacks this season, ahead of Tom Brady, Carson Palmer and Ben Roethlisberger, but his steady-as-she-goes approach fits nicely with what Reid wants to do offensively. And even if it means fewer big plays down the field, it's hard to argue with the results; the Chiefs started 9-0 last season before finishing 11-5. And after an 0-2 start this season, they have won three of four, their only loss an eminently winnable game in San Francisco in Week 5. And this all comes after the Chiefs, prior to Reid and Smith's arrival, won a grand total of two games in 2012. When Smith signed a four-year, $68 million extension just before the season, our only reservation was that it would mean the Chiefs would put off finding their next young quarterback. But at 30 years old, he's entering his NFL prime; there's no reason to rush him off the field. In fact, he could be the key to helping the Chiefs to back-to-back winning seasons for the first time since 2005-2006.
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