Chiefs 6-10 Team with Chase Daniel - Page 17

Prison Bitch · 12-28-2014, 05:15 PM

Someone at the game today made a comment that we should play Chase Daniel next year and "get rid of that clown Smith". Like always, I wanted to see what the data suggests.

We have almost no sample size for Daniel as he's played 2 games. We have a large sample size for Alex though. QB rating is extremely correlated to wins in the NFL. The average rating is 84: a team can expect an additional win (or loss) moving approximately 6 points from the median. Alex had a 93 rating and Daniel had a 75 rating today. That's an implied swing of 3 full games if we assume static performance.

While there is no way to know if Daniel would perform differently over the course of a season, it's doubtful any teams (or our own coaching staff) believe he could. Else, he'd be picked up as a starter. Whether Chiefs fans see any value finishing 9-7 vs 6-10 if you miss the playoffs regardless is another discussion.

GoChargers · 12-29-2014, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

and after reading the OP of the linked thread, what are you disagreeing with?

Rodgers STILL holds the ball too long and STILL will never beat a team with an elite pass rush because he STILL takes too many sacks.

And Rodgers was, IMO, the best NFL QB THIS year.

However, he's been so/so in the postseason. This year, he has NO excuse. He shouldn't have gotten excuses two years ago, either. Even last year.

...and I'd still take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers.

But again, that's a coin flip for me.

flip
flop
flip
flop

Hootie · 12-29-2014, 12:13 AM

you don't have to praise him

but you shouldn't pretend like he's a terrible NFL QB

because he's not

he does make football a lot more boring for me, though, since I do like QB's who actually throw the ball down the field

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-29-2014, 12:13 AM

Holy shit you are dumb

Hootie · 12-29-2014, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

Rodgers holds the ball too long and Alex doesn't? Please tells that's what you're trying to insinuate here.

you can't read, at all

lol

In58men · 12-29-2014, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

you don't have to praise him

but you shouldn't pretend like he's a terrible NFL QB

because he's not

he does make football a lot more boring for me, though, since I do like QB's who actually throw the ball down the field

He was benched and traded for a reason. He sucks.

RobBlake · 12-29-2014, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Lynch makes the offense go, but wilson has 54 passes for 20+. That guy makes some things happen when he has to. Def not a game manager.

Russel is a great leader... great chucker.. great make it up as you go... but he has been carried by one of the top defenses of the past 10-15 years

In58men · 12-29-2014, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

you can't read, at all

lol

I usually don't read any of your garbage, that line just caught my eye. You got lucky.

Hootie · 12-29-2014, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake

Flip Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers.. Seahawks rival the patriots dynasty.. the niners dynasty.. cowboys..

ok?

and the Hawks with Russell at the #1 seed in the NFC aren't already potentially going to be rivaling those aforementioned dynasties

?

...?

Hootie · 12-29-2014, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

He was benched and traded for a reason. He sucks.

Peyton Manning was cut.

Does he suck?

RobBlake · 12-29-2014, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

you don't have to praise him

but you shouldn't pretend like he's a terrible NFL QB

because he's not

he does make football a lot more boring for me, though, since I do like QB's who actually throw the ball down the field

If Alex was willing to consistently toss it down field he would be elite. Thats really the only gripe I had about him as a niner and as a chief. He reads the defense.. make plays with his legs, extremely tough, smart, solid leader, plays the QB position as if's investing in some high stake stocks.. big picture kind've guy.. doesn't go for gaudy stats.. Nolan/singletary broke him. literally.

Brock · 12-29-2014, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake

Flip Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers.. Seahawks rival the patriots dynasty.. the niners dynasty.. cowboys..

That's really a stupid post. Wow.

Hootie · 12-29-2014, 12:19 AM

Matt Cassel led a Patriots team to 11-5

does that mean Tom Brady isn't any good ?

because he was on a team that was good enough to win games even without elite QB play?

Wilson makes his very good team a Super Bowl caliber team.

Tom Brady made his very good team a Super Bowl caliber team.

People trying to discredit Russell Wilson make me laugh. You really have to not watch him play to think he's not the most valuable player on that entire team.

GoChargers · 12-29-2014, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Peyton Manning was cut.

Does he suck?

Was Fivehead ever benched for the likes of Troy Smith, David Carr, Colin Kaepernick, Shaun Hill, and J.T. O'Sullivan in his career?

In58men · 12-29-2014, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Peyton Manning was cut.

Does he suck?

Oh wow, comparing Smiths situation to Manning and the Colts situation. Son of bitch our fan base is ****ing embarrassing

RobBlake · 12-29-2014, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

ok?

and the Hawks with Russell at the #1 seed in the NFC aren't already potentially going to be rivaling those aforementioned dynasties

?

...?

yeah. ain't gonna happen with russell

12-28-2014, 05:15 PM
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	6-10 Team with Chase Daniel Someone at the game today made a comment that we should play Chase Daniel next year and "get rid of that clown Smith". Like always, I wanted to see what the data suggests. We have almost no sample size for Daniel as he's played 2 games. We have a large sample size for Alex though. QB rating is extremely correlated to wins in the NFL. The average rating is 84: a team can expect an additional win (or loss) moving approximately 6 points from the median. Alex had a 93 rating and Daniel had a 75 rating today. That's an implied swing of 3 full games if we assume static performance. While there is no way to know if Daniel would perform differently over the course of a season, it's doubtful any teams (or our own coaching staff) believe he could. Else, he'd be picked up as a starter. Whether Chiefs fans see any value finishing 9-7 vs 6-10 if you miss the playoffs regardless is another discussion.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Matt Cassel led a Patriots team to 11-5 does that mean Tom Brady isn't any good ? because he was on a team that was good enough to win games even without elite QB play? Wilson makes his very good team a Super Bowl caliber team. Tom Brady made his very good team a Super Bowl caliber team. People trying to discredit Russell Wilson make me laugh. You really have to not watch him play to think he's not the most valuable player on that entire team.
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