Chiefs Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs - Page 23

cmh6476 · 12-30-2014, 11:06 AM

stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-30-2014, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Crabtree was coming back from an injury in 2012, nice try though.

He was not. He played all 16 games in 2012. He missed the entire PS in 2011 and tore his Achilles in the offseason between 2012 and 2013.

**SAUTO** · 12-30-2014, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I'm pulling numbers out of my ass.

Makes sense

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-30-2014, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Wrong, Megget?

****IN BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You and Clay seem to be the only guys not in full on lust with this kid... what the hell is your problem with this rookie? To me, he's one of those extremely rare guys where every time they even come close to getting the ball its worthy of a "the entire stadium audibly held its breath" moment.

Returns punts for touchdowns.
He's runs jet sweeps like a mfer.
Already learning how to go deep for a catch.

Dave Meggett was a really, really ****ing good football player. That's not a slam at all. I don't know how you could think otherwise.

Would you take comparing Travis Kelce to Mark Bavaro as a slight too?

**SAUTO** · 12-30-2014, 06:23 PM

Same with all the teams where bowe would be a 3.

**Baby Lee** · 12-30-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's exactly what you implied.

If Dorsey, Reid and Smith are staying, and everyone acknowledges this, what is the point of stating it?

Either you are inferring that people are claiming that they are gone, which doesn't exist, which is a strawman, or you are wasting time by stating the patently obvious in Maddenesque fashion.

Illogical or pointless, likely both, but that's a digression overall from the punch-drunk stupidity of your post in its entirety.

You seem to have a serious reading comprehension problem.

This whole line of conversation started comparing Sandy's realistic acknowledgement that Smith is here to stay compared to his detractors, many of whom want the entire building to burn.

It doesn't matter if they grudgingly admit it's not likely to happen. It's what they harp on, hope for, and bitch about incessantly.

rabblerouser · 12-30-2014, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He was not. He played all 16 games in 2012. He missed the entire PS in 2011 and tore his Achilles in the offseason between 2012 and 2013.

That's right, 2011- that's the year Alex Smith outgunned Drew Brees to take SF to the NFC Championship Game. That crazy deep pass to Vernon Davis...

My bad. I stand corrected.

**SAUTO** · 12-30-2014, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

You seem to have a serious reading comprehension problem.

This whole line of conversation started comparing Sandy's realistic acknowledgement that Smith is here to stay compared to his detractors, many of whom want the entire building to burn.

It doesn't matter if they grudgingly admit it's not likely to happen. It's what they harp on, hope for, and bitch about incessantly.

Actually I hope for him to play with the intensity and the fire he played with in the playoff game against the colts every game.

ODESSABRONC · 12-30-2014, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

I'm with Hootie, for better or worse here... Smith is so limited physically and in many ways, mentally, it seems.

But if you put some of these other cannon armed brickheads behind this same line?... yeah, the outcome is atleast just as bad and probably even worse... thats not sticking up for smiff, just common sense.

I don't remember everyone from the list but two at least two of those guys were rookies. I don't know if Carr or Bridgewater will make it in this League it's little early say they won't but I would rather take a chance on a guy who has vastly more potential than a 10 year vet who hasn't done jack. The fact of matter is team can and have won with rookie quarterbacks they don't necessarily have to on a complete team. If the team has good running attack, a solid defense and are descent on special teams they can win.

rabblerouser · 12-30-2014, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Same with all the teams where bowe would be a 3.

Chicago
Denver
Pittsburgh
Indy
Carolina
Buffalo
Arizona
Green Bay
Cincy
Detroit
Atlanta
New Orleans
San Diego
Jacksonville

rabblerouser · 12-30-2014, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Dave Meggett was a really, really ****ing good football player. That's not a slam at all. I don't know how you could think otherwise.

Would you take comparing Travis Kelce to Mark Bavaro as a slight too?

Meggett was great in NY and NE, in the slot, out of the backfield or the old 'H-back' set, he did it all, a precursor to the Randle Els and Percy Harvins that followed.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-30-2014, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

You seem to have a serious reading comprehension problem.

This whole line of conversation started comparing Sandy's realistic acknowledgement that Smith is here to stay compared to his detractors, many of whom want the entire building to burn.

It doesn't matter if they grudgingly admit it's not likely to happen. It's what they harp on, hope for, and bitch about incessantly.

Who said that Smith wasn't here to say? Who said that Reid, Dorsey, et. al weren't here to stay?

It absolutely does matter if they acknowledge its existence. No one is grudgingly admitting that it's not likely. The certainty of it is what breeds the anxiety and discontent.

Your entire train of thought in this thread comes from baseless claims about what you think others have said (that you can't talk about improving WRs or the line, both undeniably false).

In order for Sandy Cheeks to be in reality while everyone else isn't, there would have to be a belief that Smith isn't here long-term. Well, where is that belief?

There is a difference between a desire and a belief, and I don't think someone that conflates the two should begrudge anyone for reading comprehension issues, especially when they can't get elementary facts about what is and isn't said over personnel decisions, correct.

rabblerouser · 12-30-2014, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ODESSABRONC

I don't remember everyone from the list but two at least two of those guys were rookies. I don't know if Carr or Bridgewater will make it in this League it's little early say they won't but I would rather take a chance on a guy who has vastly more potential than a 10 year vet who hasn't done jack. The fact of matter is team can and have won with rookie quarterbacks they don't necessarily have to on a complete team. If the team has good running attack, a solid defense and are descent on special teams they can win.

I would never start a rookie behind such a dumpster fire Oline.

Sandy Vagina · 12-30-2014, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Chicago
Denver
Pittsburgh
Indy
Carolina
Buffalo
Arizona
Green Bay
Cincy
Detroit
Atlanta
New Orleans
San Diego
Jacksonville

what about Baltimore for you? would you start Bowe over either Smith?

or Houston.. Hopkins and Andre J...

rabblerouser · 12-30-2014, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

what about Baltimore for you? would you start Bowe over either Smith?

or Houston.. Hopkins and Andre J...

Good call.

Add 'em to the list.

Over the half the league, Bowe would be a #3.

THAT is who is overpaid.

**Baby Lee** · 12-30-2014, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Who said that Smith wasn't here to say? Who said that Reid, Dorsey, et. al weren't here to stay?

It absolutely does matter if they acknowledge its existence. No one is grudgingly admitting that it's not likely. The certainty of it is what breeds the anxiety and discontent.

Your entire train of thought in this thread comes from baseless claims about what you think others have said (that you can't talk about improving WRs or the line, both undeniably false).

In order for Sandy Cheeks to be in reality while everyone else isn't, there would have to be a belief that Smith isn't here long-term. Well, where is that belief?

There is a difference between a desire and a belief, and I don't think someone that conflates the two should begrudge anyone for reading comprehension issues, especially when they can't get elementary facts about what is and isn't said over personnel decisions, correct.

God it's sad when someone's bluster loses its bite.

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