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Old 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM  
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Pats Cheating Comfirmed
According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

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Old 01-21-2015, 05:49 PM   #421
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As far as I'm concerned, the scrutiny should last forever. Pats have been cheating since as early as 1961 and brazenly continue to do it even after they get caught. That organization already more than used up the benefit of the doubt years ago.


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Old 01-21-2015, 05:50 PM   #422
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They haven't released video of someone actually doing it, but they checked the balls before the game, found them all to be at the correct pressure, then checked them again at halftime, where the Colts' balls were still at the correct pressure while the Patriots' balls were all under-inflated.

Yes, Rodgers likes the balls to be over-inflated, so he has them over-inflated, then they are checked by the refs. He expressed his disappointment that the refs relieve some of the pressure, meaning that he plays with the footballs in the condition that the refs have approved. You may notice that the underlined portion of the previous sentence is exactly what Brady and the Patriots did not do.
Do you have a link for the bolded part? If true it completely debunks any notion of weather being a factor- which I have doubted from the start anyways since when using the Real Gas Law equation you can't come away with a 2 psi difference unless some other variable is present.
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Old 01-21-2015, 05:50 PM   #423
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I'd go the opposite direction and let the QB's adjust the PSI to their liking. Like i said in the other thread, it's only an advantage if the other team doesn't get to do it.

If Brady is playing Rodgers, and they both prefer the ball @ a different PSI, then does it matter? It's their choice, it's not cheating anymore at that point, it's gamesmanship.
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Old 01-21-2015, 05:50 PM   #424
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As far as I'm concerned, the scrutiny should last forever. Pats have been cheating since as early as 1961 and brazenly continue to do it even after they get caught. That organization already more than used up the benefit of the doubt years ago.
We know what you think. Don't ever serve on a jury, btw.
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Old 01-21-2015, 05:50 PM   #425
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Haha Patriots fans in full blown damage control mode.

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Old 01-21-2015, 05:50 PM   #426
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Old 01-21-2015, 05:50 PM   #427
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Saw this part in that link:
""We would practice in the rain, Bill would throw water on dry balls during practice and there was never anything done to deflate them because of it being wet," the former Patriot said. "That doesn't even make any sense. As anal as Tom is about the balls, there's no way he'd let some ball boy or whatever try to deflate it to a certain PSI."
That Tom Brady. Sure is anal about the balls
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Problem is that the quarterbacks hated it. New balls are slick and the grip is terrible. And that means less offense, which means it won't happen most likely.
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Old 01-21-2015, 05:51 PM   #429
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Do we know the bolded part for certain? Also, I have yet to read that Rodgers "over-inflates" his balls. And, yes, the third grader in me still giggles a little every time.
Gerry Austin, longtime referee, says halftime Pats-Colts footballs brought in, checked at half. Colts footballs still legal. Pats were not.

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Scuffing the ball provides friction to facilitate gripping the ball. Same difference.
Except that one method is allowed, the other is not. One method alters the weight of the ball, the other does not. One team got the advantage of deflating, the other did not.

So no, it's not the same difference.
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Gerry Austin, longtime referee, says halftime Pats-Colts footballs brought in, checked at half. Colts footballs still legal. Pats were not.

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Old 01-21-2015, 05:55 PM   #433
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Wait, are the Patriots on some kind of probation? If the Patriots do something wrong, whatever it is, not only does it get analyzed far more closely than if any other team in the NFL does it, the punishment should be harsher?

I assume this unwritten rule needs to stay in place until Brady/Belichick retire and the Patriots suck again? What happens if Garoppolo is really good and it turns into a Manning/Luck situation? Probation stays in place until he retires?

Or do the Krafts have to sell the team?

Inquiring minds want to know.
When a HC gets caught cheating and 8 years later that SAME HC potentially has cheated again that is called a pattern of cheating.

You really can't figure that out?

Even as a dumbshit Patriots fan this shouldn't be that hard for you to figure out.
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It still hasn't been proven.

I just heard the Aaron Rodgers interview where he likes the ball to be over 13.5 and believes there should be a maximum PSI.

I think the fans are more upset about this revelation than the coaches, players and NFL admin.
The coaches, players and administration isn't upset because it happens all the time, according to Matt Leinart.
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A first and second round pick along with being ineligible for the 2015 playoffs seems about right
Better idea… the Patriots should be forced to go through an entire NFL calendar year with the version of the "Patriots Way" they tried to export to KC.

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