Football Pats Cheating Comfirmed - Page 136

PizzaDoughz · 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

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Discuss.

**kysirsoze** · 01-28-2015, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The Rams only got into the red zone once in that game, dumbass. The result was a TD.

Why won't you answer the question? One pretty weak point is made and you seize on it exclusively, refusing to answer the only question being asked of you. If you don't have an explanation for the destruction of the evidence, just say so and we'll move on.

**Dylan** · 01-28-2015, 05:02 PM

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The 2007 New England Patriots videotaping controversy, widely dubbed "Spygate,"refers to an incident in the 2007 National Football League season when the New England Patriots were disciplined by the National Football League (NFL) for videotaping New York Jets' defensive coaches' signals during a September 9, 2007 game from a sideline location, an act deemed by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to be in violation of league rules. After an investigation, the NFL fined Patriots head coach Bill Belichick $500,000 (the maximum allowed by the league) for his role in the incident, fined the Patriots $250,000, and docked the team their original first-round selection in the 2008 NFL Draft.

As part of their probe into the allegations, the NFL required the Patriots to turn over all notes and tapes relating to the taping of opponents' defensive signals; the Patriots complied with the order and the NFL reviewed and then destroyed the materials. This action was criticized on February 1, 2008 — two days before Super Bowl XLII — by U.S. Senator Arlen Specter, who requested to meet with Goodell. Specter requested the meeting despite the fact that Belichick had admitted to taping signals dating back to 2000 was reported by ESPN on September 14, 2007. After meeting with Goodell on February 13, 2008, Specter said that Goodell told him that Belichick had been engaged in the practice since he became head coach of the Patriots in 2000. Belichick said he believed he was operating within the rules as long as the tape was not used during the same game.

Nearly six months after the incident, the Boston Herald reported, citing an unnamed source, that the Patriots had also videotaped the St. Louis Rams' walkthrough practice prior to Super Bowl XXXVI in February 2002, an allegation denied by Belichick. Meanwhile, Matt Walsh, a Patriots video assistant in 2001 who was fired after the team's 2002 season, told the media the same week that he had information and materials regarding the Patriots' videotaping practices, but demanded an indemnity agreement before speaking with the NFL.

The NFL reached a deal with Walsh on April 23, 2008 and arranged a meeting between Goodell and Walsh. Prior to the meeting, Walsh sent eight videotapes, containing opponents' coaches' signals from the 2000 through 2002 seasons, in accordance with the agreement. Goodell and Walsh met on May 13, 2008, at which time Walsh told Goodell he and other Patriots employees were present at the Rams' walkthrough to set up video equipment for the game; as a result, Goodell told the media additional penalties would be brought against the Patriots.

Written records of the history of Spygate can be found on Wikipedia.

Just Passin' By · 01-28-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Why won't you answer the question?

It's been answered a bunch of times already.

**The Franchise** · 01-28-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I know what he said. What he said was idiotic. The data, and the game tape, show it.

How was it idiotic?

3 special plays were drawn up specifically for that game by Martz. They were only done during the walk through and somehow Belichick had the perfect answer to all three of those plays.

**kysirsoze** · 01-28-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

It's been answered a bunch of times already.

What was the answer?

ClevelandBronco · 01-28-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Nope. But I know you don't mind if teams cheat, so our definition of satisfactory explanation is probably pretty different.

Undoubtedly.

And it's not that I don't mind if teams cheat, I celebrate cheating in professional sports.

**kysirsoze** · 01-28-2015, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Undoubtedly.

And it's not that I don't mind if teams cheat, I celebrate cheating in professional sports.

I would too if I were you.

ClevelandBronco · 01-28-2015, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I would too if I were you.

That goes without saying.

**Dylan** · 01-28-2015, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Undoubtedly.

And it's not that I don't mind if teams cheat, I celebrate cheating in professional sports.

**kysirsoze** · 01-28-2015, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

It's been answered a bunch of times already.

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What was the answer?

Still waiting... Don't feel bad. You're not the only one who can't come up with a good reason to destroy those tapes.

Just Passin' By · 01-28-2015, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

How was it idiotic?

3 special plays were drawn up specifically for that game by Martz. They were only done during the walk through and somehow Belichick had the perfect answer to all three of those plays.

The Perfect answer was to commit holding on Marshall Faulk. Who knew?

Just Passin' By · 01-28-2015, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Still waiting... Don't feel bad. You're not the only one who can't come up with a good reason to destroy those tapes.

I don't feel bad. You can feel free to do a search. I'm talking about Faulk's bullshit crying about the red zone.

**kysirsoze** · 01-28-2015, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I don't feel bad. You can feel free to do a search. I'm talking about Faulk's bullshit crying about the red zone.

I did the search. SI doesn't have an answer. Wikipedia doesn't either. You aren't saving time by not answering, in fact you are wasting it. I know you love putting people in their place over this stuff so I have to believe if you had a decent response you would have leveled me with it by now. Considering this I'll leave you to debate a non issue because it's an argument you can win.

Just Passin' By · 01-28-2015, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I did the search. SI doesn't have an answer. Wikipedia doesn't either. You aren't saving time by not answering, in fact you are wasting it. I know you love putting people in their place over this stuff so I have to believe if you had a decent response you would have leveled me with it by now. Considering this I'll leave you to debate a non issue because it's an argument you can win.

What are you talking about? I wasn't talking about SI or Wikipedia. The question has been answered in these threads.

You people act as if evidence is never destroyed after a case, and you ignore the fact that Glazer still has his copy.

BucEyedPea · 01-28-2015, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan

Written records of the history of Spygate can be found on Wikipedia.

Good thing wikipedia is not considered an accurate or reliable source and anyone can edit it. It's only a starting point.

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