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Old 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM  
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Pats Cheating Comfirmed

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

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Old 02-12-2015, 03:14 PM   #2701
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The fact that this thread is still going is silly. That is all.

I enjoy it over the other threads currently in the Lounge. Of course, I have a vested interest though.
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Old 02-12-2015, 03:15 PM   #2702
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What is this "history" though when all that can be claimed is one incident—Spygate?

It's claims like this that keep the narrative going.
As far as I can tell, yeah. Looks very much like nothing happened here. Jmo, but I wouldn't even dignify it with a response. I'd go all bill Cosby on the whole thing if it were me. My only response would be "Kiss the ring, bitches".
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Old 02-12-2015, 03:17 PM   #2703
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As far as I can tell, yeah. Looks very much like nothing happened here. Jmo, but I wouldn't even dignify it with a response. I'd go all bill Cosby on the whole thing if it were me. My only response would be "Kiss the ring, bitches".
Well, I like to fill in the gaps so that the story is straight. Otherwise, people dub in their own info. Learned it from a PR person.
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Old 02-12-2015, 03:18 PM   #2704
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Do you think the Patriots would risk a chance of that happening again? I don't.

Even if not true, half-true or anything else it would be bad Public Relations and I don't think Kraft want's that. Kraft is a good businessman and Josh is a good OC.


The only seasons he worked for teams that haven't been consistently mired in cheating scandals, his offenses finished 20th, 19th, and 32nd.
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Well, I like to fill in the gaps so that the story is straight. Otherwise, people dub in their own info. Learned it from a PR person.
Good idea. I'll keep that in mind myself.
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According to McDaniels.
No, according to the investigation. But your comment makes my point about discussing the issue. I talk about it because it's funny watching people make idiots of themselves in their bitter desire to make the Patriots out to be the epitome of evil, but it's a waste of time in the end, because those idiots will never be persuaded, regardless of the actual facts.
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The only seasons he worked for teams that haven't been consistently mired in cheating scandals, his offenses finished 20th, 19th, and 32nd.


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The fact that this thread is still going is silly. That is all.

The comedy factor with posters like Hootie and PGM makes it worth keeping alive. It's like the "choker" threads that way.
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Old 02-12-2015, 03:33 PM   #2709
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The only seasons he worked for teams that haven't been consistently mired in cheating scandals, his offenses finished 20th, 19th, and 32nd.
Well wouldn't that prove his cheating, per you, didn't result in anything?

I don't care what other teams he's worked on. I am discussing the Patriots and when he was OC they had good seasons.

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McDaniels just won a Super Bowl with the Pats. Deflategate has gone nowhere.


You can claim ONE confirmed cheating scandal in the first game of the 2007 season. Unlikely that what happened there continued the rest of the season when they nearly had a perfect season. Brady was injured in 2008. As I recall there was cheering here that he was taken out and injured by Chief's Pollard. Some think that's cheating.
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No, according to the investigation. But your comment makes my point about discussing the issue. I talk about it because it's funny watching people make idiots of themselves in their bitter desire to make the Patriots out to be the epitome of evil, but it's a waste of time in the end, because those idiots will never be persuaded, regardless of the actual facts.
It's weird that Singletary decided that the 49ers' walkthrough should only contain fake or meaningless plays (http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/j...broncos-112910).

It's almost like McDaniels had some sort of reputation where teams would need to be careful about what they practiced (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-was-cheating/)

It's also weird that McDaniels was fired 9 days after the investigation.
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You do realize MagiHef, that one or even two members of a team cheat doesn't a whole team cheats, right?

I wouldn't even say that of the Seadderalls.
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Well wouldn't that prove his cheating, per you, didn't result in anything?

I don't care what other teams he's worked on. I am discussing the Patriots and when he was OC they had good seasons.

http://www.patriots.com/team/coaches...7-fcae3be430a4


McDaniels just won a Super Bowl with the Pats. Deflategate has gone nowhere.


You can claim ONE confirmed cheating scandal in the first game of the 2007 season. Unlikely that what happened there continued the rest of the season when they nearly had a perfect season. Brady was injured in 2008. As I recall there was cheering here that he was taken out and injured by Chief's Pollard. Some think that's cheating.
You made a positive comment about Josh McDaniels. Just for your reference, you can't do that in the presence of a Broncos fan and not expect a response.
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You do realize MagiHef, that one or even two members of a team cheat doesn't a whole team cheats, right?

I wouldn't even say that of the Seadderalls.
This is true. I don't have any evidence that there were any people from the 2010 Broncos other than McDaniels and Scarnecchia that were vile, cheating scum like they were.
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You made a positive comment about Josh McDaniels. Just for your reference, you can't do that in the presence of a Broncos fan and not expect a response.
I know that team did not like him. I don't think he made a good head coach, despite growing up with a respected High School coach and football family.
In fact, I read Welker left the Pats because he didn't like BB. That's not all of it though.
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It's weird that Singletary decided that the 49ers' walkthrough should only contain fake or meaningless plays (http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/j...broncos-112910).

It's almost like McDaniels had some sort of reputation where teams would need to be careful about what they practiced (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-was-cheating/)

It's also weird that McDaniels was fired 9 days after the investigation.
It's weird that a struggling team fired a coach after they had an excuse to do so? In what alternate universe is that weird?

Is that the same alternate universe where it's ok to

Cheat the salary cap for years
Illegally use Vaseline on your uniforms
Illegally install radio systems in your helmets

and then call others cheaters?

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