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ArrowheadHawk · 07:58 PM

11 straight Conference Championships!

Ranking #9 (26-8,13-5)

Non-Con Schedule (11-2)

Spoiler!

Conference Schedule

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Fri, March 20 NMSU at Kansas Omaha, NE CBS at 11:15a.m. CT

Players

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Bambi · 03-22-2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

PB and Bambi...

How many previous KU coaches have won 11 straight conference titles, 2 national championship appearances and how many sweet 16's?

Surely there have been others since it's "KU" and not "the coach".

This team was constructed like shit. Is Self a victim of his own success? Yes, I think so. But what do we REALLY want?

Is making the tourney every year good enough if we're going out in the round of 32 or sweet 16?

I spent the past few nights watching great teams from 2003, 2005, etc etc and I feel no connection to this year's squad as I did them. Cliff was a disaster but maybe Black Panda needs to go if we're just going to get the same bullshit every year?

Why don't we have Baker or this Weasel guy? Why do we only look to Baltimore, TX, Chicago and Oak Hill?? Maybe start doing some real recruiting work and stop relying on Rivals to make all your choices for you.

That's all I'm saying. Bill's gettin a little fat..... you could see it on TV today.

eDave · 03-22-2015, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

JFC, what a reerun. The arrogance of people who think "it's the program, not the coach" is astounding.

How well did North Carolina do when Matt Doherty was the head coach?

How well did Kentucky do when Billy Gillespe was the head coach?

How well did UCLA do when Walt Hazzard was the head coach?

How well did Duke do when Bucky Waters, Neil McGeachy and Bill Foster were the head coaches in the 1970s?

Do you really think KU has a better program than North Carolina, Kentucky, UCLA, and Duke?

Being at a perennial powerhouse certainly helps win games and it certainly makes recruiting easier. But it's not THE PROGRAM at any of those schools. It's the program AND the right coach. And Bill Self is a helluva coach. Anybody who doesn't understand that is a moron.

Apparently KU don't need no coach. I'm thinking someone else needs to be checking themselves here.

Good post.

chiefqueen · 03-22-2015, 07:36 PM

Gone:
Oubre, Jr.
Alexander
Seldon
Ellis
Garrett

Redshirting (either here or somewhere else to GROW UP)
Greene

Key ?????

Is this the summer coach Pop retires & HCBS leaves KU for San Anton (his daughter & son-in-law do live in TX)?

Will the actions of Alexander's parents get KU a 2016 postseason ban?

Imon Yourside · 03-22-2015, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen

Gone:
Alexander
Garrett

Key ?????

Is this the summer coach Pop retires & HCBS leaves KU for San Anton (his daughter & son-in-law do live in TX)?

Will the actions of Alexander's parents get KU a 2016 postseason ban?

NO and NO.

**notorious** · 03-22-2015, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

I've got a grip, i tempered expectations at the loss to Kentucky. It's a miracle we were as good as we were honestly. Frankamp really started the chain reaction. He would have played major minutes.

Most KU fans understand, especially you.

There are a couple on here that are delusional. I bet you can guess who.....

Imon Yourside · 03-22-2015, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi

This team was constructed like shit. Is Self a victim of his own success? Yes, I think so. But what do we REALLY want?

Is making the tourney every year good enough if we're going out in the round of 32 or sweet 16?

I spent the past few nights watching great teams from 2003, 2005, etc etc and I feel no connection to this year's squad as I did them. Cliff was a disaster but maybe Black Panda needs to go if we're just going to get the same bullshit every year?

Why don't we have Baker or this Weasel guy? Why do we only look to Baltimore, TX, Chicago and Oak Hill?? Maybe start doing some real recruiting work and stop relying on Rivals to make all your choices for you.

That's all I'm saying. Bill's gettin a little fat..... you could see it on TV today.

I agree with one thing, Bill is getting fat. I think if he were a little skinnier we would be looking at a championship this year.

Hootie · 03-22-2015, 07:40 PM

It's true, man. I live in Champaign. Self turned the Illini into a title contender. He had Villanueva coming to join Deron Williams, Luther Head, Dee Brown, James Augustine and Roger Powell the year he left for KU. Those were 5 NBA players and the runner up WITHOUT Villanueva who didn't come to Illinois after Self left.

Self got 5 NBA players to commit to Champaign, IL. 6 if Charlie came. You know how much success Illinois has had and how many NBA players they've recruited since Self? Ha.

Self is a hell of a recruiter and a hell of a coach. Only KU fans would be entitled enough to try and discredit his success. Embarrassing.

Lex Luthor · 03-22-2015, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen

Gone:
Oubre, Jr.
Alexander
Seldon
Ellis
Garrett

Redshirting (either here or somewhere else to GROW UP)
Greene

Key ?????

Is this the summer coach Pop retires & HCBS leaves KU for San Anton (his daughter & son-in-law do live in TX)?

Will the actions of Alexander's parents get KU a 2016 postseason ban?

The fact that you believe Self would leave KU for Texas tells us all we need to know about the level of basketball knowledge you possess.

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-22-2015, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi

This team was constructed like shit. Is Self a victim of his own success? Yes, I think so. But what do we REALLY want?

Is making the tourney every year good enough if we're going out in the round of 32 or sweet 16?

I spent the past few nights watching great teams from 2003, 2005, etc etc and I feel no connection to this year's squad as I did them. Cliff was a disaster but maybe Black Panda needs to go if we're just going to get the same bullshit every year?

Why don't we have Baker or this Weasel guy? Why do we only look to Baltimore, TX, Chicago and Oak Hill?? Maybe start doing some real recruiting work and stop relying on Rivals to make all your choices for you.

That's all I'm saying. Bill's gettin a little fat..... you could see it on TV today.

I began, "How many...?" I was looking for a quantifiable answer.

It's a pretty straight forward question, I thought.

Imon Yourside · 03-22-2015, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious

Most KU fans understand, especially you.

There are a couple on here that are delusional. I bet you can guess who.....

Yes and there are quite a few who are overreacting right now. Let it calm down, how anyone that followed this team couldn't see this coming is beyond me.

Lex Luthor · 03-22-2015, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

It's true, man. I live in Champaign. Self turned the Illini into a title contender. He had Villanueva coming to join Deron Williams, Luther Head, Dee Brown, James Augustine and Roger Powell the year he left for KU. Those were 5 NBA players and the runner up WITHOUT Villanueva who didn't come to Illinois after Self left.

Self got 5 NBA players to commit to Champaign, IL. 6 if Charlie came. You know how much success Illinois has had and how many NBA players they've recruited since Self? Ha.

Self is a hell of a recruiter and a hell of a coach. Only KU fans would be entitled enough to try and discredit his success. Embarrassing.

Not all KU fans. Just a few idiots.

**Bearcat** · 03-22-2015, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

NO and NO.

Can always count on chiefqueen to randomly stop by and post something that makes even the dumbest conversation look like a Mensa meeting.

**notorious** · 03-22-2015, 07:42 PM

Hootie nailed it, and he didn't even mention what Self did at a school in OK that has a smaller student enrollment than Fort Hays State.

Bambi · 03-22-2015, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainiac

JFC, what a reerun. The arrogance of people who think "it's the program, not the coach" is astounding.

How well did North Carolina do when Matt Doherty was the head coach?

How well did Kentucky do when Billy Gillespe was the head coach?

How well did UCLA do when Walt Hazzard was the head coach?

How well did Duke do when Bucky Waters, Neil McGeachy and Bill Foster were the head coaches in the 1970s?

Do you really think KU has a better program than North Carolina, Kentucky, UCLA, and Duke?

Being at a perennial powerhouse certainly helps win games and it certainly makes recruiting easier. But it's not THE PROGRAM at any of those schools. It's the program AND the right coach. And Bill Self is a helluva coach. Anybody who doesn't understand that is a moron.

I respect you and I respect your post but I feel like I've read this exact same thing 5 years in a row now.

just sayin

Hootie · 03-22-2015, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

We'll trade u straight up - Squeaky for Burrito Bill, and I'll throw in Jim Wooldridge and Tom Asbury as his top Assistants.

Weber would love to coach Self's recruits again ... hell, it'd probably land him another D1 job after he got canned once his recruits started taking over

03-23-2014, 02:07 PM
ArrowheadHawk Rock Chalk! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Casino cash: $7744961	** OFFICIAL 2014-2015 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread 11 straight Conference Championships! Ranking #9 (26-8,13-5) Non-Con Schedule (11-2) Spoiler! 11/14/2014 UC Santa Barbara Lawrence, Kan. W 69-59 (1-0) 11/18/2014 Kentucky Indianapolis, Ind. L 40-72 (1-1) Orlando Classic 11/24/2014 Rider Lawrence, Kan. W 87-60 (2-1) 11/27/2014 Rhode Island Orlando, Fla. W 76-60 (3-1) 11/28/2014 Tennessee Orlando, Fla. W 82-67 (4-1) 11/30/2014 Michigan State Orlando, Fla. W 61-56 (5-1) 12/5/2014 Florida Lawrence, Kan. W 71-65 (6-1) 12/10/2014 Georgetown Washington, DC W 75-70 (7-1) 12/13/2014 Utah Kansas City, Mo. W 63-60 (8-1) 12/20/2014 Lafayette Lawrence, Kan. W 96-69 (9-1) 12/22/2014 Temple Philadelphia, PA L 52-77 (9-2) 12/30/2014 Kent State Lawrence, Kan. W 78-62 (10-2) 1/4/2015 UNLV Lawrence, Kan. W 76-61 (11-2) Conference Schedule Spoiler! 1/7/2015 Baylor Waco, Texas W 56-55 (12-2,1-0) 1/10/2015 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. W 86-54 (13-2,2-0) 1/13/2015 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. W 67-57 (14-2,3-0) 1/17/2015 Iowa State Ames, Iowa L 81-86 (14-3,3-1) 1/19/2015 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. W 85-78 (15-3,4-1) 1/24/2015 Texas Austin, Texas W 75-62 (16-3,5-1) 1/28/2015 TCU Fort Worth, Texas W 64-61(17-3,6-1) 1/31/2015 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. W 68-57(18-3,7-1) 2/2/2015 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. W 89-76(19-3,8-1) 2/7/2015 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. L 62-67(19-4,8-2) 2/10/2015 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas W 73-51(20-4,9-2) 2/14/2015 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. W 74-64(21-4,10-2) 2/16/2015 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. L 61-62(21-5,10-3) 2/21/2015 TCU Lawrence, Kan. W 81-72(22-5,11-3) 2/23/2015 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. L 63-70(22-6,11-4) 2/28/2015 Texas Lawrence, Kan. W 69-64(23-6,12-4) 3/3/2015 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. W 76-69(24-6,12-4) 3/7/2015 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. L 73-75(24-7,12-5) Big 12 Championship 3/12/2015 TCU Kansas City, Mo. W 64-59(25-7) 3/13/2015 Baylor KC, Mo W 62-52(26-7) 3/14/2015 Iowa State KC, Mo W 66-70(25-8) Fri, March 20 NMSU at Kansas Omaha, NE CBS at 11:15a.m. CT Players Spoiler!** New Players Hunter Mickelson - F Transfer Cliff Alexander - 5 Star C Kelly Oubre - 5 Star F/G Devonte Graham - 4 Star PG Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk - (Not Ranked but equivalent to 5 Star) G Players Lost Tarik Black - Graduation Andrew Wiggins - NBA Draft Joel Embiid - NBA Draft Justin Wesley - Graduation Niko Roberts - Graduation Christian Garrett - Graduation Naadir Tharpe - Transfer Andrew White - Transfer Conner Frankamp - Transfer Returning Starters Wayne Selden, Jr. - G - Sophmore Perry Ellis - F - Junior Last edited by ArrowheadHawk; 03-16-2015 at 07:58 PM..
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03-22-2015, 07:36 PM	#3843
chiefqueen On my throne Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $7912060	Gone: Oubre, Jr. Alexander Seldon Ellis Garrett Redshirting (either here or somewhere else to GROW UP) Greene Key ????? Is this the summer coach Pop retires & HCBS leaves KU for San Anton (his daughter & son-in-law do live in TX)? Will the actions of Alexander's parents get KU a 2016 postseason ban?
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03-22-2015, 07:40 PM	#3847
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	It's true, man. I live in Champaign. Self turned the Illini into a title contender. He had Villanueva coming to join Deron Williams, Luther Head, Dee Brown, James Augustine and Roger Powell the year he left for KU. Those were 5 NBA players and the runner up WITHOUT Villanueva who didn't come to Illinois after Self left. Self got 5 NBA players to commit to Champaign, IL. 6 if Charlie came. You know how much success Illinois has had and how many NBA players they've recruited since Self? Ha. Self is a hell of a recruiter and a hell of a coach. Only KU fans would be entitled enough to try and discredit his success. Embarrassing.
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03-22-2015, 07:42 PM	#3853
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $-854116	Hootie nailed it, and he didn't even mention what Self did at a school in OK that has a smaller student enrollment than Fort Hays State.
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