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Old 06-21-2015, 11:57 AM  
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Two 1st round picks for Russell Wilson in '16 and '17 or '17 and '18





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Old 06-22-2015, 11:38 AM   #361
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Yes, but largely because of the TEAM, not just Wilson.
So it would be more impressive if he had lost with a mediocre team around him?
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:38 AM   #362
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So it would be more impressive if he had lost with a mediocre team around him?
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:39 AM   #363
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Wilson's running ability is like giving Seattle an extra player on offense. Teams have to account for him, and that opens things up for everyone else. It's pretty amazing that a QB can have two conference championships and a Super Bowl in his first 3 seasons and people still treat him like he's good but not great.

The dude has won 42 total games in his first 3 seasons. The Chiefs have 3 playoff wins since 1969. Wilson has 6.
The Seahawks defense has given up 12.3 points per game in the 36 regular season games he has won. It's not THAT hard to win games when all you need is a touchdown and 2 field goals. In the playoffs, they give up 15.5. We'd have more than a few playoff victories if that's what our defenses gave up.

Instead there are people complaining that Alex Smith only scored 4 touchdowns and lost.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:40 AM   #364
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Andrew Luck in the playoffs:

6 games 9 TDs 12 INTs QB rating by season: 59.8, 76.4, 71.8


Russell Wilson in the playoffs:

8 games 12 TDs 6 INTs QB rating by season: 102.4, 101.6, 90.3
I'm sure being on a loaded team made no difference for Wilson here.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:40 AM   #365
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The Seahawks defense has given up 12.2 yards per game in the 36 regular season games he has won.
Incredible stat if true.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:41 AM   #366
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I'm sure being on a loaded team made no difference for Wilson here.
His team is loaded on defense. It's far from loaded on offense.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:42 AM   #367
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His team is loaded on defense. It's far from loaded on offense.
True.

It's why I hate when people use the QB head to head W/L as if it's really useful.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:43 AM   #368
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Facts:

In the championship games from each QB:

The best QB in the NFL on highest scoring offense in the NFL scores only 3 points off of ALL 4 Russell Wilson INT's. That's it.

The Colts defense allowed 21 points in the 3rd quarter alone

The Colts 22nd ranked rush offense ran for 65 yards.

Marshawn Lynch ran for 157 yards and a 6.3 YPC avg.

Russell Wilson doesn't have consequences when he makes mistakes.
In 2012, the Colts defense gave up 24 points in one game. The Seahawks defense gave up an average of 22 points in 2 games.

In 2014, the Colts gave up an average of 22.7 PPG in 3 games. The Seahawks gave up an average of 22.3 points over the same span.

The only noticeable difference in the two was 2013 when the Colts got absolutely piss pounded in by the Chiefs and Patriots. For all the doom and gloom, I stand by my original point. That Colt defense usually plays pretty well in big games.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:48 AM   #371
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Seahawks point totals in playoff games under Wilson:

28, 24, 43, 23, 23, 24, 28, 31


Colts under Luck:

9, 22, 45, 7, 24, 26
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The main difference between the two QBs has been running game and defense. Neither has had a great cast around him on offense, especially in the passing game (Luck's has been better than Wilson's in terms of WR/TE). I think Luck as QB of the Seahawks has won at least one SB, as Wilson has done.

We need more time for this to play out. Luck's ceiling is higher, and he's less likely to get hurt over the long run, and less likely to see his game go south as he doesn't rely on speed/mobility in the pocket to avoid pressure. Wilson waits longer for plays to develop, but partially because he CAN, and obviously has alot less pressure on him to perform well every week for his team to have a chance.

This conversation will be alot more interesting in 2020 or 2025 I think, than it is now.
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Andrew Luck in the playoffs:

6 games 9 TDs 12 INTs QB rating by season: 59.8, 76.4, 71.8


Russell Wilson in the playoffs:

8 games 12 TDs 6 INTs QB rating by season: 102.4, 101.6, 90.3
Was just about to post this..

In three postseason trips Andrew Luck has thrown for 0 TDs and 1 INT, 6 TDs and 7 INTs, and 3 TDs and 4 INTs. Russell Wilson has gone for 3 TDs and 0 INTs, 3 TDs and 1 INT, and 6 TDs and 5 INTs.

What's the narrative around here when it comes to Peyton's lone Super Bowl win (specifically that postseason run)? He went for 3 TDs and 7 INTs. He got carried by his defense and running game while simultaneously drawing the worst SB contender this millennia?
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So Alex Smith gets carried by his running game and defense to 9-10 wins and all is right with the world.

When Russell Wilson gets "carried" by his defense and running game and makes clutch plays to win playoff games and championships, the dude is slammed.

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Seahawks point totals in playoff games under Wilson:

28, 24, 43, 23, 23, 24, 28, 31


Colts under Luck:

9, 22, 45, 7, 24, 26
Clearly all thanks to Marshawn Lynch...
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